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From: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Kumar Sundararajan <kumar@fb.com>,
	Arun Sharma <asharma@fb.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/2] ABI for clock_gettime_ns
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:37:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111214183729.GC2465@netboy.at.omicron.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrW+g6_VSUJJz4NSVwjKhMo+U_3uQDe9W6uEXdjTuaXVhA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 09:15:29AM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:48 AM, john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com> wrote:

> > On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 08:46 +0100, Richard Cochran wrote:
> >> Believe it or not, people (from the Test and Measurement field) have
> >> already been asking me about having subnanosecond time values from the
> >> kernel.
> 
> I'm curious how that works.  My personal record is synchronizing time
> across a bunch of computers to within maybe half a nanosecond, but it
> wasn't the *system* clock that I synchronized -- I just calibrated a
> bunch of oscillator phase differences on ADC clocks that I was using.
> I only relied on the system clock being correct to a few tens of
> microseconds, which is easily done with PTP.

On example to take a look at is the White Rabbit project.

It is possible to time stamp events and apply clock corrections at a
very fine resolution, for example with synchronized Ethernet and PTP.

> What about:
> 
> struct sys_timeval {
>     u64 nanoseconds;  /* unsigned.  the current time will always be
> after 1970, and those extra 290 years might be nice. */
>     u64 padding;  /* for later.  currently always zero. */
> 
> That way, once there's both an implementation and a use case, we can
> implement it.  In the mean time, the overhead is probably immeasurably
> low -- it's a single assignment.

Agreed.

> Note that rdtsc isn't good to a nanosecond, let alone sub-nanosecond
> intervals, on any hardware I've ever seen.

But the hardware is coming, sooner or later.

Richard

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-12-14 18:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-13  1:26 Andy Lutomirski
2011-12-13  1:26 ` [RFC 1/2] Add clock_gettime_ns syscall Andy Lutomirski
2011-12-13  3:32   ` Richard Cochran
2011-12-13  1:26 ` [RFC 2/2] x86-64: Add __vdso_clock_gettime_ns vsyscall Andy Lutomirski
2011-12-13  3:24 ` [RFC 0/2] ABI for clock_gettime_ns Richard Cochran
2011-12-13  3:43   ` john stultz
2011-12-13  7:09     ` Andy Lutomirski
2011-12-14  7:46       ` Richard Cochran
2011-12-14 16:48         ` john stultz
2011-12-14 17:15           ` Andy Lutomirski
2011-12-14 17:31             ` john stultz
2011-12-14 18:37             ` Richard Cochran [this message]
2011-12-14 18:30           ` Richard Cochran
2011-12-14 19:07             ` john stultz
2011-12-14 19:20               ` Andy Lutomirski
2011-12-14 21:34                 ` john stultz
2011-12-15 11:35                   ` Richard Cochran
2011-12-22 12:03               ` Richard Cochran
2011-12-24  5:59                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2011-12-24  6:50                   ` Richard Cochran
2011-12-25  4:06                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2011-12-14  7:20     ` Richard Cochran
2011-12-14 16:23       ` john stultz
2011-12-14 18:21         ` Richard Cochran
2011-12-14 18:57           ` john stultz
2012-01-07 19:51             ` Richard Cochran
2011-12-21  0:50 ` Arun Sharma
2011-12-21  1:07   ` Andy Lutomirski

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