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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: "Denys Vlasenko" <vda.linux@googlemail.com>,
	"Denys Vlasenko" <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Łukasz Michalik" <lmi@ift.uni.wroc.pl>,
	"Dmitry V. Levin" <ldv@altlinux.org>
Subject: Re: ptrace fixes for 3.2
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 18:09:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120103170927.GA31795@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120103163023.GA31746@google.com>

Hi Tejun,

On 01/03, Tejun Heo wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 04:44:04PM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > It fails because ->real_parent sees its child in EXIT_DEAD state
> > while the tracer is going to change the state back to EXIT_ZOMBIE
> > in wait_task_zombie().
>
> Argh.... EXIT_ZOMBIE -> DEAD -> ZOMBIE dancing in wait_task_zombie()
> is just nasty.  Didn't realize it was doing that.  :(

We both missed this ;)

> > The offending commit is 823b018e which moved the EXIT_DEAD check,
> > but in fact we should not blame it. The original code was not
> > correct as well because it didn't take ptrace_reparented() into
> > account and because we can't really trust ->ptrace.
> >
> > This patch adds the additional check to close this particular
> > race but it doesn't solve the whole problem. We simply can't
> > rely on ->ptrace in this case, it can be cleared if the tracer
> > is multithreaded by the exiting ->parent.
>
> I'm not following this part.  Can you please explain it in a bit more
> detail?

Before 823b018e the code was:

	if (!ptrace && p->ptrace) {
		wo->notask_error = 0;
		return 0;
	}

	if (p->exit_state == EXIT_DEAD)
		return 0;

There are 2 problems:

	1. it is not correct to clear ->notask_error unless
	   this child is ptrace_reparented(). Nobody will
	   wakeup us if EXIT_DEAD was set by our sub-thread.

	2. We can not rely on ->ptrace to detect this case.

	   Suppose that the tracer is multithreaded, it has
	   two threads T1 and T2, T1 traces our child.

	   - T2 does do_wait(WEXITED), sets EXIT_DEAD, drops
	     tasklist_lock.

	   - T1 exits and does __ptrace_detach(), this means
	     __ptrace_unlink() and nothing more.

	   - Now, real_parent does do_wait() and sees the
	     EXIT_DEAD child but ->ptrace = 0.

	   - finally T2 sets EXIT_DEAD but it is too late,

The patch doesn't solve the 2nd (btw very old) problem. Fortunately
this race is very unlikely.

> > I think we should kill EXIT_DEAD altogether, we should always
> > remove the soon-to-be-reaped child from ->children or at least
> > we should never do the DEAD->ZOMBIE transition. But this is too
> > complex for 3.2.
>
> Agreed.  Removing the reverse transition shouldn't be too difficult
> and can be done without affecting fast non-ptrace path.  ie. if the
> child is ptraced, drop readlock, grab writelock, recheck, buffer
> states to copy out to userland, detach and transit to DEAD if
> necessary.

Yes.

> > Also, I think wait_consider_task() needs more fixes. I do not
> > think we should clear ->notask_error without WEXITED in this
> > case, but this is what we do in the EXIT_ZOMBIE case.
>
> Hmmm... I'm not sure about that.  Why do you think so?

I am not sure too. But why do_wait() should sleep if it is called
without WEXITED (lets ignore WCONTINUED) and the child is ZOMBIE?
I think it should return -ECHILD, like it does if the child is not
traced.

IOW. Suppose we have a single EXIT_ZOMBIE child. If it is not traced,
do_wait(WSTOPPED) returns -ECHILD. If the child is traced (by another
process) do_wait() sleeps until detach just to return the same error.
This looks a bit strange.

>  Acked-by: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>

Great, thanks.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-03 17:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-28 18:55 Possible bug introduced in commit 9b84cca Denys Vlasenko
2011-12-28 21:07 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-12-28 21:23   ` Łukasz Michalik
2011-12-29 11:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-12-29 12:05   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-03 14:29     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-03 15:44       ` ptrace fixes for 3.2 Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-03 16:30         ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-03 17:09           ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2012-01-03 19:18             ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-04 11:35               ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-04 15:31                 ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-04 15:59                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-03 16:51         ` Denys Vlasenko
2012-01-04  9:00           ` Łukasz Michalik

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