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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: "Ted Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Subject: Re: Revoking filesystems [was Re: Sysfs attributes racing with unregistration]
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 13:38:32 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120105183831.GA21565@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120105182752.GC26382@thunk.org>

On Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 01:27:52PM -0500, Ted Ts'o wrote:
> Ideally, we should do both.  The block device should call a
> notification function (probably run out of a workqueue context, to
> avoid locking issues) which tells the file system, "the block device
> is _gone_ and isn't coming back".  Any attempts to read or write to
> the block device should return errors, since there maybe writeback
> happening in the background while the file system is shutting down
> file system mount.  Once the file system is done, it can all a
> function which tells the block device layer that it's OK to release
> the block device and its related structures.

FYI: we have all the functionality for that available in XFS and would
just need to wire it up.  It's also triggered if we get a write I/O
error for metadata (typically the log), so with a minim delay we
actually provide that behaviour already.

> In order for the file system to shut down the file system cleanly, it
> will need to access VFS-level revoke functionality that replaces file
> descriptors with ones that returns an error on reads and writes, and
> which does the right thing with mmap's[1], etc.

And that part is close to impossible to get right.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-01-05 18:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-04 16:52 Sysfs attributes racing with unregistration Alan Stern
2012-01-04 17:18 ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-04 18:13   ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-04 19:41     ` Alan Stern
2012-01-05  3:07       ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-05 15:13         ` Revoking filesystems [was Re: Sysfs attributes racing with unregistration] Alan Stern
2012-01-05 15:32           ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-05 16:03             ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-05 16:44               ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-05 16:47               ` Alan Stern
2012-01-05 17:11                 ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-05 18:27                 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-01-05 18:36                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-05 19:28                     ` Ted Ts'o
2012-01-05 20:52                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-06  6:25                       ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2012-01-05 20:43                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-05 20:55                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-07 21:01                     ` Revoking filesystems [was Re: Sysfs attributes racing withunregistration] Milton Miller
2012-01-05 18:38                   ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2012-01-05 15:52           ` Revoking filesystems [was Re: Sysfs attributes racing with unregistration] Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-14 15:11             ` watchdog code anish kumar
2012-01-05 18:18           ` Revoking filesystems [was Re: Sysfs attributes racing with unregistration] Greg KH
2012-01-04 18:13   ` Sysfs attributes racing with unregistration Alan Stern
2012-01-04 18:20     ` Tejun Heo

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