From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757295Ab2AKAvY (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:51:24 -0500 Received: from cantor2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:57500 "EHLO mx2.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757007Ab2AKAvV (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:51:21 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 01:51:19 +0100 From: Jan Kara To: Surbhi Palande Cc: Jan Kara , Eric Sandeen , Kamal Mostafa , Alexander Viro , Andreas Dilger , Matthew Wilcox , Randy Dunlap , Theodore Tso , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Valerie Aurora , Christopher Chaltain , "Peter M. Petrakis" , Mikulas Patocka , Surbhi Palande Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/7] Adding support to freeze and unfreeze a journal Message-ID: <20120111005119.GA24005@quack.suse.cz> References: <1323367477-21685-1-git-send-email-kamal@canonical.com> <1323367477-21685-2-git-send-email-kamal@canonical.com> <4F0C9D87.8010006@sandeen.net> <20120110213104.GI4516@quack.suse.cz> <20120111000448.GA16395@quack.suse.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue 10-01-12 16:13:46, Surbhi Palande wrote: > >> If all the write operations were journaled, then this patch would not allow > >> ext4 filesystem to have any dirty data after its frozen. > >> (as journal_start() would block). > >> > >>  I think the only one candidate that creates dirty data without calling > >> ext4_journal_start() is mmapped? > >  No, the problem is in any write path. The problem is with operations > > that happen during the phase when s_frozen == SB_FREEZE_WRITE. These > > operations dirty the filesystem but running sync may easily miss them. > > During this phase journal is not frozen so that does not help you in any > > way. > > > >                                                                Honza > > Ok! No new transaction can really start after the journal is frozen. > But we can have dirty data after SB_FREEZE_WRITE and before > SB_FREEZE_TRANS. > I agree with you. However, can this be fixed by adding a > sync_filesystem() in freeze_super() after the sb->s_op->freeze_fs() is > over? The problem with this is that to do writeback you need to start a transaction. So you would deadlock. > So then essentially, when freeze_super() returns, the page cache is clean? > > I do definitely agree that the fix is to add a lock for mutual > exclusion between freeze filesystem and writes to a frozen filesystem. Yes, that would be the cleanest solution but it's quite some work. Honza -- Jan Kara SUSE Labs, CR