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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>,
	David Daney <david.daney@cavium.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@amd.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung.kim@lge.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>
Subject: Re: Fixing perf top --user shortcoming was: Re: [GIT PULL 0/9] perf/core improvements and fixes
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:32:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120126183223.GB8630@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120126143037.GD9128@infradead.org>


* Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org> wrote:

> > > ptrace_may_access(task, PTRACE_MODE_READ) fails for some 
> > > tasks owned by the user because, IIRC, in 
> > > __ptrace_may_access:
> 
> > Which tasks are these, are they privileged in any sense?
> 
> IIRC one of them was a child of sshd, that runs as root and 
> then changes the child ownership to the user logging in.

It's probably privileged then - or at least not sufficiently 
deprivileged.

Skipping them ought to be the right solution - it's not like 
such tasks tend to create a lot of overhead worth profiling. 
They are also not debuggable via gdb so they are not part of the 
user's development session and such.

> I'll continue investigation but probably for now the first 
> thing to do is to just remove them from the thread_map when 
> they return -EPERM.

Yeah. Maybe warn about them in verbose mode or such.

> > If yes and if most of the 'real' tasks a user have can be 
> > profiled just fine then i think we should just skip the 
> > privileged tasks and not abort the profiling session?
> 
> Yeah, that can be done, while debugging I'll emit a warning 
> with the resulting thread_map of "special tasks" to figure out 
> what makes them special.

Ok, sounds great!

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-26 18:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-24 23:07 Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-01-24 23:07 ` [PATCH 1/9] perf tools: Add fprintf methods for thread_map and cpu_map classes Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-01-24 23:07 ` [PATCH 2/9] perf tools: Introduce per user view Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-01-24 23:07 ` [PATCH 3/9] perf bench: Make "default" memcpy() selection actually use glibc's implementation Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-01-24 23:07 ` [PATCH 4/9] perf bench: Also allow measuring alternative memcpy implementations Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-01-24 23:07 ` [PATCH 5/9] perf bench: Also allow measuring memset() Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-01-24 23:07 ` [PATCH 6/9] perf bench: Allow passing an iteration count to "bench mem mem{cpy,set}" Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-01-24 23:07 ` [PATCH 7/9] perf tools: Fix broken build by defining _GNU_SOURCE in Makefile Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-01-24 23:08 ` [PATCH 8/9] perf probe: Usability fixes Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-01-24 23:08 ` [PATCH 9/9] perf tools: Fix strlen() bug in perf_event__synthesize_event_type() Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-01-26 11:16 ` [GIT PULL 0/9] perf/core improvements and fixes Ingo Molnar
2012-01-26 12:22   ` Fixing perf top --user shortcoming was: " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-01-26 13:09     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-26 14:30       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-01-26 18:32         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2012-01-26 19:24           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo

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