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From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Phillip Susi <psusi@ubuntu.com>
Cc: Maxim Patlasov <maxim.patlasov@gmail.com>,
	joe@perches.com, kzak@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	jaxboe@fusionio.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] Add partition resize function to BLKPG ioctl
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 16:04:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120126210456.GC11297@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F21B91E.90106@ubuntu.com>

On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 03:35:42PM -0500, Phillip Susi wrote:
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> On 1/26/2012 2:01 PM, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > I thought update will always happen with mutex lock held. That's
> > what sequence counter expects so that two updaters don't race. Just
> > that while updating under mutex lock, we still need to use sequence
> > counter mecahinsm to update values so that any readers out there
> > not holding mutex don't get confused.
> 
> Yes, but holding the mutex while writing does no good for the reader.
>  When the writer doesn't use the seqcounter, then the reader that is
> using it is not actually protected.

Ok, so you are worried about updates to nr_sects by other code. Makes
sense.

[..]
> > Are you still pursuing this pathset? Sounds like a useful
> > functionality to have.
> 
> Yes, but I hadn't yet heard back about my question about this being a
> broader issue that is already a bug in the kernel because things like
> loop and md already change nr_sects ( on the whole disk partition )
> without any protection.

Interesting. I do see that set_capacity() changes the nr_sects without
any protection. Sounds like it is racy on 32bit machines with 64bit
sector_t.

> 
> Maybe what we need is a read/write lock on struct genhd, then all
> readers need to acquire the read lock, which should only slow them
> down if they collide with a writer.

But taking lock will mean atomic operation irrespective of the fact
whether lock is taken by somebody else or not. I am assuming it will
still turn out to be expensive.

> 
> Another idea that I had but have not yet checked to see if it is
> actually feasible is to copy the struct genhd, change the size of the
> copy, and replace the existing one since updating the pointer will be
> atomic.

You will run into issues if somebody has a pointer stored to genhd.

I think simpler thing would be to stick with sequence counter approach
which keeps read side lockless. We can fix other writers of nr_sects
over a period of time. If nobody has complained so far, that means
we don't run into issues frequently and it is not a huge concern.

Thanks
Vivek

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-26 21:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-29 17:06 Maxim Patlasov
2011-12-30  0:09 ` Phillip Susi
2012-01-01 21:49   ` Phillip Susi
2012-01-26 19:01   ` Vivek Goyal
2012-01-26 20:35     ` Phillip Susi
2012-01-26 21:04       ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2012-01-26 21:48         ` Phillip Susi
2012-01-30 15:49           ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found] <cover.1322709471.git.psusi@cfl.rr.com>
2011-12-01  3:23 ` Phillip Susi
2011-12-08 12:30   ` Karel Zak
2011-12-08 14:22     ` Phillip Susi
2011-12-08 15:16       ` Karel Zak
2011-12-08 15:25         ` Phillip Susi
2011-12-08 15:58           ` Vivek Goyal
2011-12-08 16:06             ` Phillip Susi
2011-12-08 16:28               ` Vivek Goyal
2011-12-08 16:55                 ` Phillip Susi
2011-12-09  2:53                 ` Phillip Susi
2011-12-12 14:53                   ` Vivek Goyal
2011-12-12 17:43                     ` Phillip Susi
2011-12-12 17:49                       ` Joe Perches
2011-12-12 18:04                         ` Vivek Goyal
2011-12-13  0:15                           ` Phillip Susi
2011-12-13  0:16                             ` Phillip Susi
2011-12-19 20:25                               ` Vivek Goyal
2011-12-21  1:53                                 ` Phillip Susi
2011-12-21  1:54                                   ` Phillip Susi
2011-12-21 20:46                                   ` Vivek Goyal
2011-12-24 21:36                                     ` Phillip Susi
2011-12-24 22:21                                       ` Phillip Susi

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