From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754073Ab2CDASR (ORCPT ); Sat, 3 Mar 2012 19:18:17 -0500 Received: from solo.fdn.fr ([80.67.169.19]:36938 "EHLO solo.fdn.fr" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754035Ab2CDASQ (ORCPT ); Sat, 3 Mar 2012 19:18:16 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 01:18:06 +0100 From: Samuel Thibault To: "John G. Heim" Cc: Alan Cox , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: speakup bug Message-ID: <20120304001806.GO4180@type.famille.thibault.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Samuel Thibault , "John G. Heim" , Alan Cox , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20120303173916.7eca9391@pyramind.ukuu.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21+34 (58baf7c9f32f) (2010-12-30) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org John G. Heim, le Sat 03 Mar 2012 18:01:07 -0600, a écrit : > >The speakup people have been told this repeatedly for years and years And the kernel hasn't really provided the feature for speakup to use it for years and years. > >which is why their drivers work on less and less systems and won't run > >with things PCI or USB serial ports, and why they are forever buried in > >staging. > > Do you recall if they gave a reason for not wanting to use the serial layer? Because no such facility really exists, it still has to to be done before speakup can use it. It's on my TODO list for years now, and still haven't found the time to work on it. > I don't even know what the serial layer is (although the name is descriptive > enough and I can guess).But I would think they'd have had some reason for > not wanting to do that. It's definitely not a "not want", but "can not use what does not exist". Just for the record: what we need is being able to open a serial port and read/write from inside the kernel. Using a daemon that does the open and setting up speakup as a line discipline would be possible, but it then depends on / working, and that's not something e.g. administrators can really afford depending on. Samuel