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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@opendz.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Solar Designer <solar@openwall.com>,
	WANG Cong <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	James Morris <james.l.morris@oracle.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Stephen Wilson <wilsons@start.ca>,
	"Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] exec: add a global execve counter
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 14:03:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120311140310.1c7c735f@pyramind.ukuu.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFy-ktC3NG5Wc+vhWB+18aqj9a0VLUSKQg+KR=FsVqfoJQ@mail.gmail.com>

> I wonder if the number part of exec_id would even have to be 64-bit. I
> think I can do about 10000 execves per second if I make the program a
> small static one - and that's on a fast CPU. And it's a per-thread
> counter, so you can't scale it with lots of CPU's. So it would take
> something like four days to wrap. Hmm..

I don't think an exec id trick works that well here. It needs to bind to
the actual *object* being used and refcount it in the cases that matter,
then have a proper way of ensuring we clean up references such as a list
of objects to zap hooked to each task struct

So something like


	struct foo_node {
		struct list_node node;
		struct proc_object *ref;
	};
		
	ref = NULL;
	if (foo->ptr != NULL
		ref = kref_get(foo->ptr);

And in the task exit paths walk the node list doing a kref_put/NULL

Add a suitable lock and it ought to be able to generically do that for
anything you need to clobber.

You've still got a sort of race however, just as the proposed execid base
code.  You can pass the fd and access the proc function *as* the exec
occurs. Assuming your ref counting is valid and you use new objects after
the exec that ought to just mean you get the data for the old mm struct,
which seems fine to me. It's logically equivalent to having asked a
microsecond before the exec rather than during it.

Alan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-03-11 14:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-10 23:25 [PATCH 0/9] proc: protect /proc/<pid>/* files across execve Djalal Harouni
2012-03-10 23:25 ` [PATCH 1/9] exec: add a global execve counter Djalal Harouni
2012-03-11  0:12   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-11  0:36     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-11  0:58       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-11  8:24         ` Solar Designer
2012-03-11  9:56           ` Ingo Molnar
2012-03-11 14:03       ` Alan Cox [this message]
2012-03-11 17:15         ` Djalal Harouni
2012-03-11  8:39     ` Djalal Harouni
2012-03-11  9:40     ` Solar Designer
2012-03-11 17:25   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-11 17:49     ` self_exec_id/parent_exec_id && CLONE_PARENT Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-11 18:02       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-11 18:37         ` richard -rw- weinberger
2012-03-11 18:39           ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-14 18:55         ` [PATCH 0/1] (Was: self_exec_id/parent_exec_id && CLONE_PARENT) Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-14 18:55           ` [PATCH 1/1] CLONE_PARENT shouldn't allow to set ->exit_signal Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-18 18:25             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-18 20:53               ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]           ` <20120314190939.GC14172@redhat.com>
2012-03-19 16:02             ` [PATCH 0/3] exec_id/exit_signal fixes Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-19 16:03               ` [PATCH 1/3] exit_signal: simplify the "we have changed execution domain" logic Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-19 16:03               ` [PATCH 2/3] exit_signal: fix the "parent has changed security " Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-19 16:04               ` [PATCH 3/3] exec: move de_thread()->setmax_mm_hiwater_rss() into exec_mmap() Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-11 22:48     ` [PATCH 1/9] exec: add a global execve counter Linus Torvalds
2012-03-11 23:32       ` Djalal Harouni
2012-03-11 23:42         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-12  0:25           ` Djalal Harouni
2012-03-12 10:11             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-12 14:01               ` Djalal Harouni
2012-03-11 23:36     ` Djalal Harouni
2012-03-12 14:34       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-10 23:25 ` [PATCH 2/9] proc: add proc_file_private struct to store private information Djalal Harouni
2012-03-10 23:25 ` [PATCH 3/9] proc: new proc_exec_id_ok() helper function Djalal Harouni
2012-03-10 23:25 ` [PATCH 4/9] proc: protect /proc/<pid>/* INF files from reader across execve Djalal Harouni
2012-03-10 23:25 ` [PATCH 5/9] proc: add protection support for /proc/<pid>/* ONE files Djalal Harouni
2012-03-10 23:25 ` [PATCH 6/9] proc: protect /proc/<pid>/* ONE files from reader across execve Djalal Harouni
2012-03-10 23:25 ` [PATCH 7/9] proc: protect /proc/<pid>/{maps,smaps,numa_maps} Djalal Harouni
2012-03-10 23:25 ` [PATCH 8/9] proc: protect /proc/<pid>/{environ,pagemap} across execve Djalal Harouni
2012-03-11  8:05   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2012-03-11 17:01     ` Djalal Harouni
2012-03-10 23:25 ` [PATCH 9/9] proc: improve and clean up /proc/<pid>/mem protection Djalal Harouni
2012-03-11  0:01 ` [PATCH 0/9] proc: protect /proc/<pid>/* files across execve Linus Torvalds
2012-03-11  0:27   ` Djalal Harouni
2012-03-11  8:46   ` Djalal Harouni
2012-03-11 10:35   ` exec_id protection from bad child exit signals (was: Re: [PATCH 0/9] proc: protect /proc/<pid>/* files across execve) Solar Designer
2012-03-11 18:20     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-12 19:13 ` [PATCH 0/9] proc: protect /proc/<pid>/* files across execve Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-12 20:44   ` Djalal Harouni
2012-03-12 21:47     ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-12 22:41       ` Djalal Harouni
2012-03-12 23:10         ` Eric W. Biederman

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