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From: Simon Horman <horms@verge.net.au>
To: Don Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com>
Cc: "Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao" <fernando@oss.ntt.co.jp>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org,
	"Yinghai Lu" <yinghai@kernel.org>,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mingo@redhat.com, "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, mingo@elte.hu,
	vgoyal@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] boot: ignore early NMIs
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:43:45 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120315004344.GA16806@verge.net.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120313133350.GS24378@redhat.com>

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 09:33:50AM -0400, Don Zickus wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:11:49AM +0900, Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao wrote:
> > On 03/13/2012 05:16 AM, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> > >On 03/12/2012 01:04 PM, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> > >>On 03/12/2012 01:01 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > >>>The basic problem is which source do we block this at?  How many
> > >>>sources are their?  And architecturally last I looked x86 no longer
> > >>>has a NMI disable EFI and similar systems want to get away without
> > >>>a CMOS legacy clock because designers so often get them wrong.
> > >>>
> > >>On all processors which have an LAPIC you can block all NMI sources at
> > >>the LAPIC.  I think it's safe to assume that if you don't have an LAPIC
> > >>-- an ancient system by now -- you have port 70h.
> > >>
> > >One thing: *disabling* the LAPIC will allow external NMIs coming in on
> > >LINT1 through, since the LAPIC in the disabled state tries to mimic the
> > >no-LAPIC configuration.  So I don't think you want to disable LAPIC as
> > >much as disable the interrupt vectors within.
> > 
> > Does this sound like a plan to get the ball rolling?:
> > 
> > 1.- Merge Don's patch to disable the LAPIC in kdump reboot path (this
> >   fixes a real issue seen in the field, is a net win and certainly not a
> >   regression - indeed it makes the code simpler because the I/O
> >   APICs are left untouched).
> 
> I think you mean my patch to stop disabling the I/O APIC.  That patch
> hasn't seen any new issues.  It was the piece that stopped disabling the
> LAPIC that opened the doors for NMIs to fault the system.
> 
> > 
> > 2.- Merge my patch set to ignore early NMIs (this brings the behavior
> >   of the boot code in line with what we do in the rest of the kernel
> >   a we can avoid situations were a spurious NMI causes the kernel
> >   to halt). The early NMI handler is temporary and the final NMI
> >   handler installed shortly afterwards will take care of subsequent
> >   NMIs.
> > 
> > 3.- Make sure that spurious NMIs (i.e. NMIs that for whatever reason
> >   could not be stopped at the source) received during the reboot
> >   path to the kdump kernel do not cause a triple fault or a system
> >   lockup. This is under testing.
> 
> This will require changes in kexec-tools as the purgatory code zaps the
> GDT I believe.  This is going to make a 'complete solution' dependent on
> a version of kexec-tools.  Not sure what we want to do there.

Ouch. I guess that in the event that purgatory needs to be modified
some backwards-compatibility will need to be provided, possibly
by allowing purgatory to switch between two behaviours based on
e.g. a command line parameter.

> > 4.- Identify all the NMI sources and keep them from reaching the CPU
> >   when it can be done in a race-free way.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-15  0:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <tip-d9bc9be89629445758670220787683e37c93f6c1@git.kernel.org>
2012-02-12  1:04 ` [tip:x86/debug] x86/kdump: No need to disable ioapic/ lapic in crash path Yinghai Lu
2012-02-12  3:13   ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-02-12  4:17     ` Yinghai Lu
2012-02-13 12:52       ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-02-13 16:51         ` Yinghai Lu
2012-02-13 18:16           ` Yinghai Lu
2012-02-16 17:27             ` Don Zickus
2012-02-16 21:53               ` Yinghai Lu
2012-02-16 21:56                 ` Don Zickus
2012-02-17  3:38                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-02-17 12:41                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-02-17 15:49                       ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2012-02-17 20:18                         ` Don Zickus
2012-02-20  5:17                           ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2012-02-20 15:24                             ` Don Zickus
2012-02-17 19:54                       ` Don Zickus
2012-02-18  3:21                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-02-20 15:14                           ` Don Zickus
2012-02-21  8:01                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-02-21 13:59                               ` Don Zickus
2012-02-29 23:19                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-07 10:53                                   ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-07 10:54                                     ` [PATCH 1/2] boot: ignore early NMIs Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-07 10:56                                       ` [PATCH 2/2] boot: add early NMI counter Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-08  4:50                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-08  6:00                                           ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-08  4:41                                       ` [PATCH 1/2] boot: ignore early NMIs Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-08  5:53                                         ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-08 16:35                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-09  9:31                                             ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-09  9:51                                               ` [PATCH 1/3] boot: fortify early_idt_handlers definition Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-09  9:55                                                 ` [PATCH 2/3] boot: ignore early NMIs Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-09 10:01                                                   ` [PATCH 3/3] boot: add early NMI counter Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-09 20:52                                             ` [PATCH 1/2] boot: ignore early NMIs H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-12  5:43                                               ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-12  5:49                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-12  6:14                                                   ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-12 13:36                                                     ` Vivek Goyal
2012-03-12 19:02                                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-12 19:58                                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-03-12 20:02                                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-12 18:40                                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-12 20:01                                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-12 20:04                                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-12 20:16                                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-13  2:11                                                             ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-13 13:33                                                               ` Don Zickus
2012-03-15  0:43                                                                 ` Simon Horman [this message]
2012-03-13  1:43                                                       ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-12 14:41                                                   ` Don Zickus
2012-03-07 15:50                                     ` [tip:x86/debug] x86/kdump: No need to disable ioapic/ lapic in crash path Vivek Goyal
2012-03-07 18:27                                       ` Yinghai Lu
2012-03-08  1:29                                         ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-09  0:59                                     ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2012-03-09  2:48                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-02-12 11:12   ` Ingo Molnar
2012-02-13 15:28   ` Don Zickus
2012-02-13 16:52     ` Yinghai Lu
2012-02-13 22:12       ` Don Zickus
2012-02-13 22:51         ` Don Zickus
2012-02-16  2:53       ` Don Zickus
2012-02-16 18:43         ` Yinghai Lu
2012-02-16 21:41           ` Don Zickus

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