From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751775Ab2C2EkH (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Mar 2012 00:40:07 -0400 Received: from shards.monkeyblade.net ([198.137.202.13]:34522 "EHLO shards.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750796Ab2C2EkD (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Mar 2012 00:40:03 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 00:39:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <20120329.003950.997517954860580620.davem@davemloft.net> To: marcel@holtmann.org Cc: keithp@keithp.com, gustavo@padovan.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org, johan.hedberg@intel.com Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "Bluetooth: Always enable management interface" From: David Miller In-Reply-To: <1332992022.1870.183.camel@aeonflux> References: <20120329022839.GA26111@joana> <86r4wct9q7.fsf@sumi.keithp.com> <1332992022.1870.183.camel@aeonflux> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.4 on Emacs 23.3 / Mule 6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (shards.monkeyblade.net [198.137.202.13]); Wed, 28 Mar 2012 21:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: Marcel Holtmann Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 05:33:42 +0200 > I think we actually have a broken user space in this case. I do have a > hunch on what went wrong. It is not the kernel's fault here. I call bullshit. It doesn't matter what userspace is doing, "broken" or however you want to call it. The bluez on everyone's computer broke because of the kernel change. Therefore you must revert the kernel change or modify it so that existing userland continues to work properly. There is no other proper course of action. And to think, I gave you bluetooth guys shit because of coding style problems, that appears to have been just the tip of the iceberg.