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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Pascal Chapperon <pascal.chapperon@wanadoo.fr>
Cc: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: RCU related performance regression in 3.3
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 20:42:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120428034257.GA2495@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20177034.34764.1335528920975.JavaMail.www@wwinf1f04>

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 02:15:20PM +0200, Pascal Chapperon wrote:
> Le 18/04/2012 17:23, Paul E. McKenney a écrit :
> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 05:00:14PM +0200, Pascal Chapperon wrote:
> >> Le 18/04/2012 16:01, Paul E. McKenney a écrit :
> >>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:37:28AM +0200, Pascal Chapperon wrote:
> >>>> Mount and umount operations are not slower with RCU_FAST_NO_HZ during
> >>>> runtime; systemctl start and stop operations are also not slower. In
> >>>> fact, i couldn't find a single operation slower during runtime with
> >>>> RCU_FAST_NO_HZ.
> >>>
> >>> Your boot-time setup is such that all CPUs are online before the
> >>> boot-time mount operations take place, right?
> >> Yes :
> >> [ 0.242697] Brought up 8 CPUs
> >> [ 0.242699] Total of 8 processors activated (35118.33 BogoMIPS).
> >>
> >>> Struggling to understand
> >>> how RCU can tell the difference between post-CPU-bringup boot time
> >>> and run time...
> >>>
> >> systemd is controlling the whole boot process including mount
> >> operation (apart root filesystem) and as I can see, uses heavily
> >> sockets to do it (not to mention cpu-affinity). It controls also the
> >> major part of umount operations. Is it possible that your patch hits
> >> a systemd bug ?
> > 
> > Is it possible that systemd is using network operations that include
> > synchronize_rcu()? Then if you did the same operation from the
> > command line at runtime, you might not see the slowdown.
> > 
> > Is it possible for you to convince systemd to collect RCU event tracing
> > during the slow operation? RCU event tracing is available under
> > /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/rcu.
> >
> .
> I have collected the RCU event tracing during a slow boot with
> FAST_NO_HZ (and the same without FAST_NO_HZ, same kernel config).
> The full logs and associated "systemd-analyze plot" can be found
> (in comment 32) at :
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=806548
> 
> With FAST_NO_HZ, almost each rcu_prep_idle is followed by ksoftirqd
> (75000 ksoftirqd lines with FAST_NO_HZ, 4000 without).
> 
> Sorry, the logs are very huge, but I can't figure where are the 
> plots of some interest. 

Thank you for collecting them!  I clearly will need to do some scripting.  ;-)

							Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-28  3:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-27 12:15 Pascal Chapperon
2012-04-28  3:42 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2012-05-01  0:02   ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-05-01  8:55     ` Pascal Chapperon
2012-05-01 15:45       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-05-04 14:42         ` Pascal Chapperon
2012-05-04 15:04           ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-05-04 21:41             ` Pascal Chapperon
2012-05-04 23:14               ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-05-10  8:40                 ` Pascal Chapperon
2012-05-14 22:32                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-05-18 11:01                   ` Pascal Chapperon
2012-05-18 12:14                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-05-18 14:48                       ` Pascal Chapperon
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-04-04 15:27 Josh Boyer
2012-04-04 21:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-05 12:37   ` Josh Boyer
2012-04-05 14:00     ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-05 14:15       ` Pascal CHAPPERON
2012-04-05 14:39         ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-06  9:18           ` Pascal Chapperon
2012-04-10 16:07             ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-11 15:06               ` Pascal
2012-04-12 18:04                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-16 21:02                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-18  9:37                     ` Pascal Chapperon
2012-04-18 14:01                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-18 15:00                         ` Pascal Chapperon
2012-04-18 15:23                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-20 14:45                             ` Pascal Chapperon

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