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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>,
	linux-serial@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Question:  How to power-manage UART-attached devices.
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 00:34:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120501003420.028b57ec@pyramind.ukuu.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F9F178F.3030408@zytor.com>

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:51:59 -0700
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:

> On 04/30/2012 03:22 PM, NeilBrown wrote:
> > 
> > What I would really like is to integrate it closely with the state
> > of the UART.  i.e. if the /dev/ttyO1 device is open, then the GPS
> > is "on".  If not then it is "off".  Similarly if /dev/tty/O0 is
> > open, bluetooth is "on", else "off". However I cannot find any way
> > to "plug in" to the tty or serial drivers to perform an arbitrary
> > action on first-open or last-close.  Is something like that
> > possible? If not, is it a reasonable thing to ask? Any suggests
> > about where to put such a hook?
> > 
> 
> I don't think that's the right interface.  Just because the port is
> currently open doesn't mean the device is active, nor vice versa.  ALL
> it means is that someone currently has an access handle to it.
> 
> Since a serial port models, well, a *port*, it is logical to think of
> a (hypothetical) socket containing an RS-232 connector as well as a
> power outlet.  Given that, it would be logical to drive the "power
> connector" using the same type of interface used for the other parts
> of an RS-232 control, meaning either with termios flags or via a
> dedicated control ioctl (TIOCPOWER?).

Actually several of our virtual tty interfaces treat open as meaning
powered up. It's a fairly logical power management model. A lot of our
real tty ports do the same as well and kill power on the last close.

At the tty layer the tty_port helper callbacks port->activate() and
port->shutdown() provide the needed functionality.

You don't however want to be "hooking" this - your platform needs to
provide its own versions of the relevant operations in the OMAP serial
driver.

Alan

  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-30 23:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-30 22:22 NeilBrown
2012-04-30 22:33 ` Mark Brown
2012-04-30 23:35   ` NeilBrown
2012-05-01 16:33     ` Mark Brown
2012-05-01 23:15       ` NeilBrown
2012-05-02  9:02         ` Mark Brown
2012-04-30 22:51 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-30 23:34   ` Alan Cox [this message]
2012-05-01  0:12     ` NeilBrown
2012-04-30 23:47   ` NeilBrown
2012-04-30 23:50     ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-01  0:27       ` NeilBrown

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