From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756849Ab2HHGuS (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 Aug 2012 02:50:18 -0400 Received: from 1wt.eu ([62.212.114.60]:5687 "EHLO 1wt.eu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752504Ab2HHGuH (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 Aug 2012 02:50:07 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 08:49:59 +0200 From: Willy Tarreau To: Eric Dumazet Cc: David Miller , albcamus@gmail.com, chris@arachsys.com, mchan@broadcom.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] bnx2: update bnx2-mips-09 firmware to bnx2-mips-09-6.2.1b Message-ID: <20120808064959.GB15255@1wt.eu> References: <20120713130405.GS13885@arachsys.com> <20120807.225800.1450928472652058111.davem@davemloft.net> <20120808061758.GA15255@1wt.eu> <1344407272.28967.214.camel@edumazet-glaptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1344407272.28967.214.camel@edumazet-glaptop> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi Eric, On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 08:27:52AM +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote: > On Wed, 2012-08-08 at 08:17 +0200, Willy Tarreau wrote: > > > > > Well, if the drivers provided with the kernel don't work out of the box > > anymore, maybe we should also move them to a separate repository. All it > > is going to do otherwise is to cause invalid bug reports because users > > don't understand why using the latest driver does not work. > > > > That way it would be clear that an in-kernel driver has to be self-sustaining > > to be maintainable, otherwise it has nothing to do there. > > People compiling their own kernels are supposed to be able to handle > this problem themselves. > > If not, they can use a distro. But similarly, people who compile their own kernels are also supposed to be able to retrieve up-to-date drivers from another tree. I know many people who use the intel NIC drivers from sf.net and (less) other ones using myricom's drivers for instance. I don't really see the value of keeping in the tree drivers that don't work out of the box, if it's only causing issues and bug reports. Regards, Willy