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From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
Cc: Vinod Koul <vinod.koul@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Dan Williams <djbw@fb.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Jon Hunter <jon-hunter@ti.com>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@nvidia.com>,
	Benoit Cousson <b-cousson@ti.com>,
	Shawn Guo <shawn.guo@linaro.org>,
	Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>,
	Sascha Hauer <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	Kukjin Kim <kgene.kim@samsung.com>,
	viresh kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>,
	Per Forlin <per.forlin@stericsson.com>,
	Rabin VINCENT <rabin.vincent@stericsson.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] dmaengine: add dmanegine slave map api's
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:52:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120918205248.GZ12245@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACRpkdaBiJXowtWm=yTV4_7=6P=SFuVuZo8+icQfE0EN87A23g@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 02:20:53PM +0200, Linus Walleij wrote:
> But we're probably the odd exception here so nevermind.
> One day we may test to rip out the logical channel handling and
> use Russell's virtual channel lib to run the show as an experiment.

Note that I'm beginning to add support for the async_tx API stuff into
the virtual channel DMA support, so it can handle the inter-dependencies
between descriptors that async_tx needs.

I'm currently trying to get the design of this right, as the async_tx
needs yet-another-list of descriptors which have been submitted, may
have been processed and completed, but for whatever reason have not
been acknowledged.  Such descriptors can not be freed because the
async_tx API may hold a reference to them, and may dereference them
at any moment to check the dependency situation.

There's a clue in that paragraph about how the DMA engine TX descriptors
_should_ be handled.  "hold a reference" is the clue.  Or another way to
say it, a kref should be embedded in the structure, providing us with
proper reference counting - and descriptors should only be 'freed'
(whether that means actually freeing them or placing them into a free
list) when the last reference is dropped.  That's _much_ better to
understand than this DMA_CTRL_ACK business...

I think switching stuff over to that may simplify things, but it's
going to be absolute hell modifying all the existing DMA engine drivers,
many of which I have no way to test (and probably as Dan has left Intel,
we have a pile of totally untestable drivers now.)

  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-18 20:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-14  9:33 Vinod Koul
2012-09-14  9:39 ` [RFC] " Vinod Koul
2012-09-14  9:41 ` [PATCH] " Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-09-14 10:51   ` Vinod Koul
2012-09-14 11:18     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-09-17  3:40       ` Vinod Koul
2012-09-17  8:36         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-09-17  9:50           ` Vinod Koul
2012-09-17 21:57             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-09-18  3:18               ` Vinod Koul
2012-09-18 12:20                 ` Linus Walleij
2012-09-18 20:52                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2012-09-18 21:04                     ` Linus Walleij

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