From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH/resend/bypass] um: Preinclude include/linux/kern_levels.h
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 23:12:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120925231233.7926772d@spider.haslach.nod.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdV+aCMOoaXwhZfPg+wKWjbtpGEw-vz048Y2TkPv2b8ckQ@mail.gmail.com>
Am Tue, 25 Sep 2012 22:37:13 +0200
schrieb Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>:
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:20:55PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >> IOW, this part of the patch:
> >>
> >> - c_flags = -Wp,-MD,$(depfile) $(USER_CFLAGS) -include user.h
> >> $(CFLAGS_$(basetarget).o)
> >> + c_flags = -Wp,-MD,$(depfile) $(USER_CFLAGS) -include
> >> $(srctree)/include/linux/kern_levels.h -include user.h
> >> $(CFLAGS_$(basetarget).o)
> >>
> >> just makes me go want to puke. The user.h file already has other
> >> #include's in it, so I really don't see why you create this insane
> >> special case.
> >>
> >> And why does UM have those "UM_KERN_XYZ" defines in the first
> >> place? Why isn't it just using KERN_XYZ directly? Is it because
> >> kern_levels.h didn't use to exist, so it was some kind of "let's
> >> create our own that we can hide in our special headers".
> >
> > Because user.h is included *without* kernel headers in include path.
>
> Indeed.
>
> > It's for the stuff that is compiled with host libc headers. Keep in
> > mind that UML talks to libc like normal architecture would talk to
> > hardware. IOW, analogs of asm glue are in (host) userland C. And
> > they need libc headers instead of the kernel ones. That's what that
> > USER_OBJ thing is about. Kernel-side constants, etc. are delivered
> > to that sucker using the same mechanism we normally use to give them
> > to assembler - asm-offsets.c. And here, of course, slapping ifndef
> > __ASSEMBLER__ around the tricky bits will not work - the header
> > itself is just fine, but getting kernel headers in the search path
> > really isn't.
> >
> > I agree that proposed solution is ugly. What we can do is
> > copy the damn header into include/generated and #include
> > <generated/kern_levels.h> from user.h. And kill UM_KERN_...
> > stuff. Objections?
>
> My first submission had "We may convert all UM_KERN_* users to KERN_*
> and drop the extra defines?" as a suggestion, but so far I haven't
> found time to implement that...
>
> Still, no one came up with a better patch, and this is a regression.
Yeah, I'd like to take the "ugly" patch to get rid of the regresion.
Later we can get rid of UM_KERN_*, which is IMHO also very ugly.
Thanks,
//richard
prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-09-25 21:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-09-25 19:11 Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-09-25 19:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-09-25 19:43 ` Al Viro
2012-09-25 20:37 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-09-25 21:12 ` Richard Weinberger [this message]
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