From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, eranian@google.com,
acme@redhat.com, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/31] perf, core: Add generic intx/intx_checkpointed counter modifiers
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:53:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120928145324.GQ16230@one.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1348822920.3292.60.camel@twins>
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:02:00AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-09-27 at 21:31 -0700, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > + intx : 1, /* count inside transaction */
> > + intx_checkpointed : 1, /* checkpointed in transaction */
>
> I really hate those names.. what are they called in transactional memory
> literature?
Don't know of any other names. The papers I looked at normally don't
bother with PMUs.
At some point I had intx_cp, would that be better?
> Also do we really need this? Using the event format stuff we could
> equally well do:
>
> {cpu/cycles/, cpu/cycles,intx/, cpu/cycles,intx_checkpointed/}
>
> No need to push those bits through perf_event_attr::flags when you can
> stuff then through perf_event_attr::config, esp. for very hardware
> specific features.
I can't use config, because the qualifiers are valid for events that
already use config (like offcore).
So would need a new field. In fact that is what I did, I reused some
unused bits.
If I moved this into sysfs this would imply that the perf stat -T
code would become Haswell specific. As far as I understand normally
you guys don't want things like that. Would everyone be ok with
having specific code there?
The perf stat -T equations output is fairly important -- it's normally
the first thing to look at for TSX -- so I would like to keep it.
Also as a selfish reason I would prefer something that is short
to type. The qualifiers are quite common in scripts that do
measurements here. So I would prefer to keep :t and :c as user
interface. But the internal implementation can be adjusted
of course.
-Andi
--
ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-09-28 14:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-09-28 4:31 perf PMU support for Haswell Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 01/31] perf, x86: Add PEBSv2 record support Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 8:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-28 8:54 ` Stephane Eranian
2012-09-28 9:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-28 11:33 ` Stephane Eranian
2012-09-28 14:42 ` Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 02/31] perf, x86: Basic Haswell PMU support Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 9:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-28 14:58 ` Andi Kleen
[not found] ` <CABPqkBQ90Crh+EpRQq0Y+xUvrj5vzrX_=SpJQyR4p8uFR_Hr=Q@mail.gmail.com>
2012-09-28 15:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-28 15:23 ` Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 03/31] perf, x86: Basic Haswell PEBS support Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 8:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 04/31] perf, core: Add generic intx/intx_checkpointed counter modifiers Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 9:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-28 11:35 ` Stephane Eranian
2012-09-28 14:53 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2012-09-28 15:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-28 15:29 ` Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 15:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-28 15:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-28 15:37 ` Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 05/31] perf, tools: Add :c,:t event modifiers in perf tools Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 06/31] perf, tools: Add intx/intx_checkpoint to perf script and header printing Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 07/31] perf, x86: Implement the :t and :c qualifiers for Haswell Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 08/31] perf, x86: Report PEBS event in a raw format Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 8:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-28 8:57 ` Stephane Eranian
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 09/31] perf, kvm: Support :t and :c perf modifiers in KVM arch perfmon emulation Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 10/31] perf, x86: Support PERF_SAMPLE_ADDR on Haswell Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 11/31] perf, x86: Support Haswell v4 LBR format Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 12/31] perf, x86: Disable LBR recording for unknown LBR_FMT Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 13/31] perf, x86: Support LBR filtering by INTX/NOTX/ABORT Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 14/31] perf, tools: Add abort,notx,intx branch filter options to perf report -j Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 15/31] perf, tools: Support sorting by intx, abort branch flags Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 16/31] perf, x86: Support full width counting on Haswell Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 17/31] perf, x86: Avoid checkpointed counters causing excessive TSX aborts Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 18/31] perf, core: Add a concept of a weightened sample Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 9:06 ` Stephane Eranian
2012-09-28 14:57 ` Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 17:09 ` Stephane Eranian
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 19/31] perf, x86: Support weight samples for PEBS Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 20/31] perf, tools: Add support for weight Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 21/31] perf, tools: Handle XBEGIN like a jump Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 22/31] perf, core: Define generic hardware transaction events Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 9:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 23/31] perf, tools: Add support for generic transaction events to perf userspace Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 24/31] perf, x86: Add the Haswell implementation of the generic transaction events Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 25/31] perf, tools: Add perf stat --transaction Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 26/31] perf, x86: Support for printing PMU state on spurious PMIs Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 9:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-28 11:39 ` Stephane Eranian
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 27/31] perf, core: Add generic transaction flags Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 28/31] perf, x86: Add Haswell specific transaction flag reporting Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 29/31] perf, tools: Add support for record transaction flags Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 30/31] perf, tools: Point --sort documentation to --help Andi Kleen
2012-09-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 31/31] perf, tools: Add browser support for transaction flags Andi Kleen
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