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From: HATAYAMA Daisuke <d.hatayama@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: fenghua.yu@intel.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	x86@kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, tglx@linutronix.de, hpa@zytor.com,
	len.brown@intel.com, vgoyal@redhat.com, ebiederm@xmission.com,
	grant.likely@secretlab.ca, rob.herring@calxeda.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/2] x86, apic: Disable BSP if boot cpu is AP
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:15:47 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121016.141547.73846029.d.hatayama@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121016.140313.279437418.d.hatayama@jp.fujitsu.com>

From: HATAYAMA Daisuke <d.hatayama@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/2] x86, apic: Disable BSP if boot cpu is AP
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:03:13 +0900

> From: "Yu, Fenghua" <fenghua.yu@intel.com>
> Subject: RE: [PATCH v1 0/2] x86, apic: Disable BSP if boot cpu is AP
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 04:51:36 +0000
> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: HATAYAMA Daisuke [mailto:d.hatayama@jp.fujitsu.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 9:35 PM
>>> To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; kexec@lists.infradead.org;
>>> x86@kernel.org
>>> Cc: mingo@elte.hu; tglx@linutronix.de; hpa@zytor.com; Brown, Len; Yu,
>>> Fenghua; vgoyal@redhat.com; ebiederm@xmission.com;
>>> grant.likely@secretlab.ca; rob.herring@calxeda.com;
>>> d.hatayama@jp.fujitsu.com
>>> Subject: [PATCH v1 0/2] x86, apic: Disable BSP if boot cpu is AP
>>> 
>>> Multiple CPUs are useful for CPU-bound processing like compression and
>>> I do want to use compression to generate crash dump quickly. But now
>>> we cannot wakeup the 2nd and later cpus in the kdump 2nd kernel if
>>> crash happens on AP. If crash happens on AP, kexec enters the 2nd
>>> kernel with the AP, and there BSP in the 1st kernel is expected to be
>>> haling in the 1st kernel or possibly in any fatal system error state.
>>> 
>>> To wake up AP, we use the method called INIT-INIT-SIPI. INIT causes
>>> BSP to jump into BIOS init code. A typical visible behaviour is hang
>>> or immediate reset, depending on the BIOS init code.
>>> 
>>> AP can be initiated by INIT even in a fatal state: MP spec explains
>>> that processor-specific INIT can be used to recover AP from a fatal
>>> system error. On the other hand, there's no method for BSP to recover;
>>> it might be possible to do so by NMI plus any hand-coded reset code
>>> that is carefully designed, but at least I have no idea in this
>>> direction now.
>> 
>> In my BSP hotplug patchset, BPS is waken up by NMI. The patchset is
>> not in tip tree yet.
>> 
>> BSP hotplug patchset can be found at https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/12/336
>> 
>>> 
>>> Therefore, the idea I do in this patch set is simply to disable BSP if
>>> vboot cpu is AP.
>>> 
>> 
>> The BSP hotplug patchset will be useful for you goal. With the BSP hotplug
>> patcheset, you can wake up BSP and don't need to disable it.
>> 
>>> My motivation is to use multiple CPUs in order to quickly generate
>>> crash dump on the machine with huge amount of memory. I assume such
>>> machine tends to also have a lot of CPUs. So disabling one CPU would
>>> be no problem.
>> 
>> Luckily you don't need to disable any CPU to archive your goal with
>> the BSP hotplug pachest:)
>> 
>> On a dual core/single thread machine, this means you get 100% performance
>> boost with BSP's help.
>> 
>> Plus crash dump kernel code is better structured by not treating BSP
>> specially.
>> 
> 
> Hello Fenghua.
> 
> I've of course noticed your patch set and locally tested, but I saw
> NMI to BSP failed in the 2nd kernel. I'll send a log to you later.
> 
> BTW, I tested with your previous v8 patch set. Did you change
> something during v8 to v9 relevant to this issue?
> 

I've fogetten saying one comment that your patch distinguish BSP by
CPU#0. CPU#0 is assigned to the boot cpu, which can be AP in the kdump
2nd kernel. Distinguishing BSP by CPU#0 is not enough here.

I have my local patch set based on your v8 patch doing this, but NMI
to BSP failed. I guess this comes from the difference of BSP states:
halting in play dead in your NMI method and halting in the 1st kernel
on crash or possibly in a fatal system error on actual situation.

Thanks.
HATAYAMA, Daisuke


  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-10-16  5:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-16  4:35 HATAYAMA Daisuke
2012-10-16  4:35 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] x86, apic: Introduce boot_cpu_is_bsp indicating whether boot cpu is BSP or not HATAYAMA Daisuke
2012-10-16  4:35 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] x86, apic: Disable BSP if boot cpu is AP HATAYAMA Daisuke
2012-10-22 20:04   ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-10-22 20:16     ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-22 20:31       ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-10-22 20:33         ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-22 20:38           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-22 20:43           ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-10-22 20:47             ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-22 21:29               ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-10-23  0:35                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-26  3:24                   ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2012-10-26  4:13                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-11  1:07                       ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-03-11  2:13                         ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-03-11  4:11                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-16  4:51 ` [PATCH v1 0/2] " Yu, Fenghua
2012-10-16  5:03   ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2012-10-16  5:14     ` Yu, Fenghua
2012-10-16  6:38       ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2012-10-22 16:02         ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-16  5:15     ` HATAYAMA Daisuke [this message]
2012-10-17 14:12 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-10-18  3:08   ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2012-10-18 14:14     ` Vivek Goyal
2012-10-19  3:20       ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2012-10-19 15:17         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-10-22  6:32           ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2012-10-22 18:37             ` Vivek Goyal
2012-10-22 17:10           ` Michael Holzheu

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