From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751396Ab2LCSD0 (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 Dec 2012 13:03:26 -0500 Received: from ngcobalt07.manitu.net ([217.11.48.107]:38365 "EHLO ngcobalt07.manitu.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751054Ab2LCSDZ (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 Dec 2012 13:03:25 -0500 X-manitu-Original-Sender-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-manitu-Original-Receiver-Name: ngcobalt07.manitu.net Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 19:03:18 +0100 From: Roland Eggner To: Dimitrios Apostolou Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Catalin Marinas , "Theodore Ts'o" Subject: Re: backing up ext4 fs, system unresponsive, thrashing like crazy even though swap is unused Message-ID: <20121203180318.GA22323@mobil.systemanalysen.net> Reply-To: Roland Eggner Mail-Followup-To: Dimitrios Apostolou , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Catalin Marinas , Theodore Ts'o References: <1353855815.22969.20.camel@soupermouf> <1354452243.22969.48.camel@soupermouf> <20121202225051.GA13685@mobil.systemanalysen.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2012-12-03 Monday at 01:56 +0200 Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: > Dear Ronald, Excuse me, my name is Roland. > sorry for not replying at your first message but I didn't consider changi= ng=20 > kernel as a resolution to my problem. > > =E2=80=A6 =E2=80=A6 > > =E2=80=A6 =E2=80=A6 > > One advantage of Linux compared to other OS is much more support for old > > hardware, if a _proper_ kernel version is selected. Many years ago I= used > > a notebook with 40 M total RAM, with a 2.4 kernel, Blackbox window mana= ger and > > Opera web browser =E2=80=A6 it worked flawlessly =E2=80=A6 just rather = slowly due to swapping. > > Your notebook has much more RAM than 40 M, thus there is surely a Linux= solution > > for you. Try a 2.6.27.62 kernel, it supports ext4 (=E2=80=9Cext4dev=E2= =80=9D), probably it > > supports all devices of your notebook, and with a slim window manager e= =2Eg. > > WindowMaker or OpenBox your notebook will probably =E2=80=9Cfly=E2=80= =9D. >=20 > I appreciate your advice. I remember when we were running 2.4 much less= =20 > memory was needed, but still I consider the kernel /fairly/ lean=20 > considering the time passed and the bloat in userspace applications. I=20 > choose to run latest kernels on old hardware, hopefully this will continu= e=20 > to be the case, and if things deteriorate much then let's hope we'll have= =20 > enough time to help and fix them! :-) Ok, this is another story: You are not looking for a least-effort solution= just=20 for your notebook. Instead you want to contribute to the LMKL community=20 solutions how to run current kernel versions under extremly tight memory=20 limitations like with your notebook, right? If so: This is highly appreci= ated, thank you! I will interestingly read your findings :) --=20 Roland --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlC86WYACgkQdN/hKfT7G/KiqwCdF5RGbecyQqDtnWxMSVVJSMxN eU0AoJ6PocAgR2EqSQuKDCVpsLl7T/1R =sqKF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q--