From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 25/25] ipc: don't use [delayed_]work_pending()
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 19:55:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121224185555.GA5344@liondog.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121224183334.GB11817@htj.dyndns.org>
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:33:34AM -0800, Tejun Heo wrote:
> If one looks at something happening in a path as cold as memory
> hotplug and thinks about optimizing a coupld memory accesses, the
> person's priorities need serious reconsideration. I think approaches
> like that are actively harmful. They lead to unnecessary (and thus
> difficult to comprehend) convolutions which don't really help anything
> while deteoriorating code base.
Maybe I'm not expressing myself clearly enough so let me try again: all
I'm saying is, I don't like the idea of needlessly toggling interrupts
and having a locked operation just to understand that there's work
pending.
Basically, with the amount of bloat we're adding to the kernel, the
couple of instructions we're adding here and there and think they won't
harm us, tends to crop up with time until we're too damn slow to do
anything.
Now, you're saying that optimizing cold paths is something that calls
for serious reconsideration of a person's priorities, and I'm saying
just don't do anything in code that's not necessary. Fullstop. If this
is leading to convolutions, then the design is suboptimal and needs
adjustment. If [delayed_]work_pending is being abused, then fix it or
add a new primitive which only checks for pending work and doesn't
unconditionally toggle interrupts.
> I don't think we have cases where this actually matters but it could
> be that we can add work_pending() tests to queue_work_on(). I *think*
> that shouldn't break work scheduling semantics. Not completely sure
> tho. Need to think about it more.
Yes, something like that.
Thanks.
--
Regards/Gruss,
Boris.
Sent from a fat crate under my desk. Formatting is fine.
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Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-12-22 1:56 [PATCHSET] workqueue: " Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 1:56 ` [PATCH 01/25] charger_manager: " Tejun Heo
2013-01-05 22:11 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-12-22 1:56 ` [PATCH 02/25] ab8500_charger: " Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <CACRpkdYE3F22rnW+ZRhOWT4VGRhG2CSnb7Rj3gdCosTK8wLQmA@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <50EAA53F.1000304@stericsson.com>
2013-01-07 10:48 ` Arun MURTHY
2013-01-08 14:30 ` Linus Walleij
2012-12-22 1:56 ` [PATCH 03/25] sja1000: " Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 8:01 ` David Miller
2012-12-28 21:40 ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 1:56 ` [PATCH 04/25] ipw2x00: simplify scan_event handling Tejun Heo
2013-01-27 21:02 ` Stanislav Yakovlev
2013-02-09 19:31 ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 1:56 ` [PATCH 05/25] devfreq: don't use [delayed_]work_pending() Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 1:56 ` [PATCH 06/25] libertas: " Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 1:56 ` [PATCH 07/25] mwifiex: " Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 22:29 ` Bing Zhao
2012-12-28 21:41 ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 1:56 ` [PATCH 08/25] thinkpad_acpi: " Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 23:55 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2012-12-28 21:41 ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 1:56 ` [PATCH 09/25] wl1251: " Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 14:14 ` Luciano Coelho
2012-12-28 21:42 ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 1:57 ` [PATCH 10/25] kprobes: fix wait_for_kprobe_optimizer() Tejun Heo
2012-12-25 3:51 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-01-28 19:49 ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-29 11:53 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-02-09 19:33 ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 1:57 ` [PATCH 11/25] pm: don't use [delayed_]work_pending() Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 11:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-12-25 16:44 ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 1:57 ` [PATCH 12/25] bluetooth/l2cap: " Tejun Heo
2013-01-03 22:27 ` Gustavo Padovan
2012-12-22 1:57 ` [PATCH 13/25] sound/wm8350: " Tejun Heo
2012-12-24 16:11 ` Mark Brown
2012-12-22 1:57 ` [PATCH 14/25] rfkill: " Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 20:22 ` Johannes Berg
2012-12-28 21:42 ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 1:57 ` [PATCH 15/25] x86/mce: " Tejun Heo
2012-12-25 11:07 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-12-28 21:44 ` [PATCH v2 " Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 1:57 ` [PATCH 16/25] PM / Domains: " Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 11:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-12-25 17:03 ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-25 20:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-12-26 1:23 ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 1:57 ` [PATCH 17/25] wm97xx: " Tejun Heo
2012-12-23 9:54 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-12-24 16:18 ` Mark Brown
2013-03-09 23:53 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2013-03-12 18:49 ` Mark Brown
2012-12-24 18:25 ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 1:57 ` [PATCH 18/25] TMIO MMC: " Tejun Heo
2012-12-24 22:31 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-12-22 1:57 ` [PATCH 19/25] net/caif: " Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 1:57 ` [PATCH 20/25] wimax/i2400m: fix i2400m->wake_tx_skb handling Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 15:28 ` Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2013-01-04 21:19 ` Dan Williams
2013-02-09 19:35 ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 1:57 ` [PATCH 21/25] tty/max3100: don't use [delayed_]work_pending() Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 4:21 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-12-28 21:44 ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 1:57 ` [PATCH 22/25] usb/at91_udc: " Tejun Heo
2013-01-07 16:25 ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-12-22 1:57 ` [PATCH 23/25] video/exynos: " Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 3:05 ` Kukjin Kim
2012-12-26 4:04 ` Jingoo Han
2012-12-28 21:44 ` 'Tejun Heo'
2012-12-22 1:57 ` [PATCH 24/25] debugobjects: " Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 1:57 ` [PATCH 25/25] ipc: " Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 2:15 ` Andrew Morton
2012-12-22 2:22 ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-22 11:09 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-12-24 18:33 ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-24 18:45 ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-24 19:41 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-12-25 3:29 ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-25 10:46 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-12-25 16:35 ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-24 18:55 ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2012-12-24 19:07 ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-24 19:32 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-12-25 3:18 ` Tejun Heo
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