From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755590Ab1JQNsM (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:48:12 -0400 Received: from smtp.eu.citrix.com ([62.200.22.115]:30783 "EHLO SMTP.EU.CITRIX.COM" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750750Ab1JQNsL (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:48:11 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,359,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="8425136" From: Ian Jackson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20124.12795.279739.528005@mariner.uk.xensource.com> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:47:39 +0100 To: "H. Peter Anvin" CC: Jeremy Fitzhardinge , Jeremy Fitzhardinge , Tigran Aivazian , the arch/x86 maintainers , Borislav Petkov , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Xen Devel , Ingo Molnar , Thomas Gleixner Subject: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 0/3] x86/microcode: support for microcode update in Xen dom0 Newsgroups: chiark.mail.xen.devel In-Reply-To: References: <4E94E1E5.4070505@goop.org> <20111012101615.GA14966@aftab> <4E95D9E7.6090304@zytor.com> <4E95E7FE.6050302@goop.org> X-Mailer: VM 8.1.0 under 23.2.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org H. Peter Anvin writes ("[Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 0/3] x86/microcode: support for microcode update in Xen dom0"): > On 10/12/2011 12:18 PM, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote: > > But for right now, this patch seems like the pragmatic solution. > > No. This is a quite astonishing response. At the moment, microcode updates in Xen systems are _completely broken_ because they do not happen at all. The existing machinery in Linux is the way it is and you say it's no good - how about we just remove it all too ? Because that's what you're suggesting is the proper course for Xen! At the moment, Jeremy's patch is a significant improvement. It is quite unreasonable to block it because some pie-in-the-sky scheme for doing it at boot time does not exist yet. Either: (a) Jeremy's patch should go in (b) all after-boot microcode update code should be removed from Linux Ian. (very cross)