From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752027Ab3AHGpw (ORCPT ); Tue, 8 Jan 2013 01:45:52 -0500 Received: from mail-lb0-f171.google.com ([209.85.217.171]:55951 "EHLO mail-lb0-f171.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750836Ab3AHGpt (ORCPT ); Tue, 8 Jan 2013 01:45:49 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 10:38:59 +0400 From: Vasily Kulikov To: Casey Schaufler Cc: Stephen Rothwell , James Morris , LSM , LKLM , SE Linux , John Johansen , Eric Paris , Tetsuo Handa , Kees Cook , Andrew Morton Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 0/9] LSM: Multiple concurrent LSMs Message-ID: <20130108063859.GB4537@cachalot> References: <50EB7C50.3070605@schaufler-ca.com> <20130108140159.83c07fa6a680e355f024970f@canb.auug.org.au> <50EB9A5E.1080306@schaufler-ca.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <50EB9A5E.1080306@schaufler-ca.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 20:02 -0800, Casey Schaufler wrote: > On 1/7/2013 7:01 PM, Stephen Rothwell wrote: > > Let me ask Andrew's question: Why do you want to do this (what is the > > use case)? What does this gain us? > > There has been an amazing amount of development in system security > over the past three years. Almost none of it has been in the kernel. > One important reason that it is not getting done in the kernel is > that the current single LSM restriction requires an all or nothing > approach to security. Either you address all your needs with a single > LSM or you have to go with a user space solution, in which case you > may as well do everything in user space. [...] You should also update Documentation/security/LSM.txt with new "security=" rules and rules of LSM stacking limitations. Motivation of stacking is probably worth noting in Documentation/ too. Thanks, -- Vasily Kulikov http://www.openwall.com - bringing security into open computing environments