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From: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>
To: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
Cc: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@gmail.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Corey Ashford <cjashfor@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/4] perf tool: Adding ratios support
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:05:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130117160516.GA4724@krava.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pq14lixn.fsf@sejong.aot.lge.com>

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 10:03:32AM +0900, Namhyung Kim wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:12:14 -0500, Ulrich Drepper wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> I was thinking having config files (global and arch specific)
> >> comming with perf having predefined formulas.
> >
> > All the more reason to not mention the file name or really any source
> > for the definition of the formula in the name,
> >
> >
> >> 1)  -e 'ratio/branch-rate/'  # special event class
> >> 2)  -e 'ratio-branch-rate'   # 'ratio-' prefix
> >> 3)  -e cpu/branch-rate/      # handled like aliases, ratio name would need to be unique
> >>   ... ?
> >
> > I think 3 is the most extensible.  Perhaps use the syntax used in
> > other places.  We have these :u suffixes etc.  Perhaps have :r or :R
> > or whatever.
> 
> I don't think it's a good idea.  The ':r' syntax is for modifiers to the
> existing events so it doesn't match to this case IMHO.
> 
> I prefer a special event class like 1 since it's possible to include
> non-cpu events to a ratio/formular.  In that case, using 'cpu' in the
> PMU name can be misleading.
> 
> >
> > Given the other comments, we might want to avoid right away "ratio".
> > If the mechanism is generalized it could be used to express "counter1
> > - counter2" for events which cannot be expressed with a single counter
> > but are not really ratios.
> 
> Agreed.  Looks like "formular" is better.

agreed, I think I wouldn't touch modifiers for this
also, 'ratio' is not good choice, formula seems better

jirka

      reply	other threads:[~2013-01-17 16:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-15 13:39 Jiri Olsa
2013-01-15 13:39 ` [PATCH 1/4] perf tool: Remove unused 'unset' parameter from parse_events Jiri Olsa
2013-01-25 11:52   ` [tip:perf/core] perf tools: " tip-bot for Jiri Olsa
2013-01-15 13:39 ` [PATCH 2/4] perf tool: Add formula interface to interface ratio definitions Jiri Olsa
2013-01-15 13:39 ` [PATCH 3/4] perf stat: Adding -f option to load and process ratios Jiri Olsa
2013-01-15 13:39 ` [PATCH 4/4] perf tool: Adding formula.conf file for testing Jiri Olsa
2013-01-16 13:13 ` [RFC 0/4] perf tool: Adding ratios support Will Deacon
2013-01-16 13:30   ` Jiri Olsa
2013-01-17 10:23     ` Will Deacon
2013-01-21 19:13       ` Jiri Olsa
2013-01-22  9:45         ` Will Deacon
2013-01-16 14:00 ` Ulrich Drepper
2013-01-16 14:25   ` Jiri Olsa
2013-01-16 15:12     ` Ulrich Drepper
2013-01-17  1:03       ` Namhyung Kim
2013-01-17 16:05         ` Jiri Olsa [this message]

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