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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Yasunori Goto <y-goto@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>,
	Michael Davidson <md@google.com>,
	Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>,
	Julien Tinnes <jln@google.com>, Aaron Durbin <adurbin@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@hack.frob.com>,
	Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: TASK_DEAD && ttwu() again (Was: ensure arch_ptrace/ptrace_request can never race with SIGKILL)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 11:50:59 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130123195059.GH2373@mtj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130123191946.GA19101@redhat.com>

Hello, Oleg.

On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 08:19:46PM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> Let me remind the problem. To oversimplify, we have
> 
> 	try_to_wake_up(task, state)
> 	{
> 		lock(task->pi_lock);
> 
> 		if (task->state & state)
> 			task->state = TASK_RUNNING;
> 
> 		unlock(task->pi_lock);
> 	}
> 
> And this means that a task doing
> 
> 	current->state = STATE_1;
> 	// no schedule() in between
> 	current->state = STATE_2;
> 	schedule();
> 
> can be actually woken up by try_to_wake_up(STATE_1) even if it already
> sleeps in STATE_2.

Hmmm... nasty.

...
> and we have the same problem again. So _I think_ that we we need another
> mb() after unlock_wait() ?

Seems so, or, maybe we should add barrier semantics to unlock_wait()?
As it currently stands, it kinda invites misusages.

> And, afaics, in theory we can't simply move the current mb() down, after
> unlock_wait().  (again, only in theory, if nothing else we should have
> the implicit barrrers after we played with ->state in the past).
> 
> Or perhaps we should modify ttwu_do_wakeup() to not blindly set RUNNING,
> say, cmpxchg(old_state, RUNNING). But this is not simple/nice.

I personally think this is the right thing to do short of requiring
locking on current->state changes.  The situation is a bit muddy
because we're generally requiring sleepers to loop while still having
cases where things don't work that way.  It's a little scary that we
require looping to protect against stray wakeups, which can be very
rare, without any way to verify/test.

The waker would be acquiring the cacheline exclusively one way or the
other, so I don't think doing cmpxchg would add much overhead.  We
would definitely want to do comparisons tho.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-23 19:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]         ` <20130118172854.GA29753@redhat.com>
     [not found]           ` <20130118175224.GA520@redhat.com>
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     [not found]               ` <20130118185559.GA3773@redhat.com>
     [not found]                 ` <CA+55aFy=newnMbx53HipyWbRs2mUUPSqXXCpSfDLW78gkro37g@mail.gmail.com>
2013-01-20 19:24                   ` [PATCH 0/4] (Was: ptrace: prevent PTRACE_SETREGS from corrupting stack) Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-20 19:25                     ` [PATCH 1/4] ptrace: introduce signal_wake_up_state() and ptrace_signal_wake_up() Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-20 19:25                     ` [PATCH 2/4] ptrace: ensure arch_ptrace/ptrace_request can never race with SIGKILL Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-20 19:46                       ` [PATCH v2 " Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-20 20:21                       ` [PATCH " Linus Torvalds
2013-01-21 17:21                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-21 18:27                           ` Linus Torvalds
2013-01-21 19:47                             ` [PATCH v3 0/3] " Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-21 19:47                               ` [PATCH v3 1/3] ptrace: introduce signal_wake_up_state() and ptrace_signal_wake_up() Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-21 19:48                               ` [PATCH v3 2/3] ptrace: ensure arch_ptrace/ptrace_request can never race with SIGKILL Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-22 17:52                                 ` [PATCH v4 " Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-21 19:48                               ` [PATCH v3 3/3] wake_up_process() should be never used to wakeup a TASK_STOPPED/TRACED task Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-22 17:51                               ` [PATCH v3 0/3] ptrace: ensure arch_ptrace/ptrace_request can never race with SIGKILL Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-23 19:19                               ` TASK_DEAD && ttwu() again (Was: ensure arch_ptrace/ptrace_request can never race with SIGKILL) Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-23 19:50                                 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2013-01-24 18:50                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-20 19:25                     ` [PATCH 3/4] ia64: kill thread_matches(), unexport ptrace_check_attach() Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-20 20:23                       ` Linus Torvalds
2013-01-20 19:26                     ` [PATCH 4/4] wake_up_process() should be never used to wakeup a TASK_STOPPED/TRACED task Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-20 19:35                     ` [PATCH 0/4] (Was: ptrace: prevent PTRACE_SETREGS from corrupting stack) Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-23 18:00                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman

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