From: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
paul.mckenney@linaro.org
Subject: Re: Debugging Thinkpad T430s occasional suspend failure.
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:15:03 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130215011503.GA11914@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFzmEDriX26Z7oJZg9yssFdCAaYwu6krmrwqfj2TBsxA4w@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:56:25AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > My test was a loop of 100 suspend/resume cycles before calling something
> > 'good'. The 'bad' cases all failed within 10 cycles (usually 2-3).
>
> Considering that you apparently already found one case where the BIOS
> crapped out due to effectively unrelated timing details (ie timing
> triggered a temperature issue that then triggered behavioral changes),
> I wonder if your more occasional problem might not be a sign of
> something similar.
>
> But since you seem to be able to automate it well, maybe one thing to
> try is to change the timing a bit while testing. Maybe some failures
> were hidden by the timing just happening to work out.
Given I never saw this on a Fedora kernel, just my self-built ones, I eventually
gave up on bisecting code, and switched to bisecting config options.
I should have started this way, as I figured it out within an hour.
3.7 merge window is when I started seeing this, and here's what got introduced
during that time..
commit e3ebfb96f396731ca2d0b108785d5da31b53ab00
Author: Paul E. McKenney <paul.mckenney@linaro.org>
Date: Mon Jul 2 14:42:01 2012 -0700
rcu: Add PROVE_RCU_DELAY to provoke difficult races
'difficult' is an understatement. This explains why some of those 'good'
bisects survived 100 suspends on one day, and failed the next.
Unfortunatly, I don't think there's any sane way to retrieve whatever debug
info might be getting spewed. Perhaps when I reinstall, and switch to booting EFI
I'll be able to use pstore, but on a bios-based boot, all hope seems lost.
No netconsole, no usb-serial, even crippling i915's suspend routine doesn't help.
I'll just disable this option for now.
Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-02-15 1:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-12 19:39 Dave Jones
2013-02-12 20:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-13 0:26 ` Hugh Dickins
2013-02-13 0:40 ` Dave Jones
2013-02-13 0:56 ` Hugh Dickins
2013-02-13 4:16 ` Dave Jones
2013-02-13 5:37 ` Hugh Dickins
2013-02-13 19:34 ` Dave Jones
2013-02-13 19:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-13 20:53 ` Dave Jones
2013-02-16 20:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-15 1:15 ` Dave Jones [this message]
2013-02-15 2:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-15 15:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-02-15 22:33 ` Dave Jones
2013-02-15 17:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-15 18:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-15 18:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-15 18:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-16 19:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-16 19:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-16 21:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-16 21:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-17 22:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-18 8:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-02-19 8:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-19 8:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-02-17 15:11 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-02-17 17:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-17 18:17 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-02-17 20:58 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-02-17 21:02 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-02-18 15:53 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-02-18 18:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-19 10:08 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-02-18 19:58 ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-02-19 10:38 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-02-19 10:44 ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-02-15 2:09 ` Hugh Dickins
2013-02-15 2:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-16 21:45 ` Hugh Dickins
2013-02-16 23:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-17 0:01 ` Hugh Dickins
2013-02-17 2:21 ` Hugh Dickins
2013-02-17 13:38 ` Daniel Vetter
2013-02-17 14:54 ` Daniel Vetter
2013-02-17 16:31 ` Hugh Dickins
2013-02-17 17:28 ` Daniel Vetter
2013-02-13 2:17 ` Dave Jones
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