From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: [CFT] Re: VFS deadlock ?
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 05:18:17 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130322051817.GM21522@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFzUobqDR0RSh8t18m32BdTvm4k7j2PCseXpFVCH_gR=Fw@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 09:55:10PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> However, I do wonder if we could take another approach... There's
> really no reason why we should look up an old inode with iget_locked()
> in proc_get_inode() and only fill it in if it is new. We might as well
> just always create a new inode. The "iget_locked()" logic really comes
> from the bad old days when the inode was the primary data structure,
> but it's really the dentry that is the important data structure, and
> the inode might as well follow the dentry, instead of the other way
> around.
>
> So why not just use "new_inode_pseudo()" instead? IOW, something like
> this (totally untested, natch) patch? This way, if you have a new
> dentry, you are guaranteed to always have a new inode. None of the
> silly inode alias issues..
>
> This seems too simple, but I don't see why iget_locked() would be any
> better. It just wastes time hashing the inode that we aren't really
> interested in hashing. The inode is always filled by the caller
> anyway, so we migth as well just get a fresh pseudo-filesystem inode
> without any crazy hashing..
Umm...
static int proc_delete_dentry(const struct dentry * dentry)
{
return 1;
}
static const struct dentry_operations proc_dentry_operations =
{
.d_delete = proc_delete_dentry,
};
IOW, dcache retention in procfs is inexistent and the damn thing tries
to cut down on the amount of inode allocation/freeing/filling.
I agree that we could get rid of icache retention there and everything
ought to keep working. Hell knows... It applies only to the stuff that
isn't per-process, so it's probably not particulary hot anyway, but it
does need profiling... OTOH, we probably could mark "stable" dentries
in some way and let proc_delete_dentry() check that flag in proc_dir_entry -
I seriously suspect that really hot non-per-process ones are of the
"never become invalid" variety.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-22 5:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-21 19:06 Dave Jones
2013-03-21 19:21 ` Al Viro
2013-03-21 20:31 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-21 19:29 ` Al Viro
2013-03-21 20:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-21 20:26 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-21 20:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-21 20:36 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-21 20:47 ` Al Viro
2013-03-21 21:02 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-21 21:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-21 21:26 ` Al Viro
2013-03-21 21:41 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-21 21:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-21 21:55 ` Al Viro
2013-03-21 21:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-21 22:03 ` Al Viro
2013-03-21 21:52 ` Al Viro
2013-03-21 22:12 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-21 22:29 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-21 22:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-21 23:07 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-21 23:36 ` Al Viro
2013-03-21 23:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-22 0:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-22 0:12 ` Al Viro
2013-03-22 0:20 ` Al Viro
2013-03-22 0:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-22 1:22 ` Al Viro
2013-03-22 1:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-22 1:40 ` Al Viro
2013-03-22 4:37 ` [CFT] " Al Viro
2013-03-22 4:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-22 5:18 ` Al Viro [this message]
2013-03-22 5:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-22 6:09 ` Al Viro
2013-03-22 6:22 ` Al Viro
2013-03-22 16:23 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-22 19:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-22 21:28 ` Al Viro
2013-03-22 22:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-22 5:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-22 0:08 ` Al Viro
2013-03-22 0:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-22 0:19 ` Linus Torvalds
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