mirror of https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: [CFT] Re: VFS deadlock ?
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 05:18:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130322051817.GM21522@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFzUobqDR0RSh8t18m32BdTvm4k7j2PCseXpFVCH_gR=Fw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 09:55:10PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> However, I do wonder if we could take another approach... There's
> really no reason why we should look up an old inode with iget_locked()
> in proc_get_inode() and only fill it in if it is new. We might as well
> just always create a new inode. The "iget_locked()" logic really comes
> from the bad old days when the inode was the primary data structure,
> but it's really the dentry that is the important data structure, and
> the inode might as well follow the dentry, instead of the other way
> around.
> 
> So why not just use "new_inode_pseudo()" instead? IOW, something like
> this (totally untested, natch) patch? This way, if you have a new
> dentry, you are guaranteed to always have a new inode. None of the
> silly inode alias issues..
> 
> This seems too simple, but I don't see why iget_locked() would be any
> better. It just wastes time hashing the inode that we aren't really
> interested in hashing. The inode is always filled by the caller
> anyway, so we migth as well just get a fresh pseudo-filesystem inode
> without any crazy hashing..

Umm...
static int proc_delete_dentry(const struct dentry * dentry)
{
        return 1;
}

static const struct dentry_operations proc_dentry_operations =
{
        .d_delete       = proc_delete_dentry,
};

IOW, dcache retention in procfs is inexistent and the damn thing tries
to cut down on the amount of inode allocation/freeing/filling.

I agree that we could get rid of icache retention there and everything
ought to keep working.  Hell knows...  It applies only to the stuff that
isn't per-process, so it's probably not particulary hot anyway, but it
does need profiling...  OTOH, we probably could mark "stable" dentries
in some way and let proc_delete_dentry() check that flag in proc_dir_entry -
I seriously suspect that really hot non-per-process ones are of the
"never become invalid" variety.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-22  5:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-21 19:06 Dave Jones
2013-03-21 19:21 ` Al Viro
2013-03-21 20:31   ` Dave Jones
2013-03-21 19:29 ` Al Viro
2013-03-21 20:15   ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-21 20:26     ` Dave Jones
2013-03-21 20:32       ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-21 20:36         ` Dave Jones
2013-03-21 20:47           ` Al Viro
2013-03-21 21:02             ` Dave Jones
2013-03-21 21:18               ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-21 21:26                 ` Al Viro
2013-03-21 21:41                   ` Dave Jones
2013-03-21 21:47                     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-21 21:55                       ` Al Viro
2013-03-21 21:57                         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-21 22:03                           ` Al Viro
2013-03-21 21:52                     ` Al Viro
2013-03-21 22:12                 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-21 22:29                   ` Dave Jones
2013-03-21 22:53                   ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-21 23:07                     ` Dave Jones
2013-03-21 23:36                     ` Al Viro
2013-03-21 23:58                       ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-22  0:01                         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-22  0:12                           ` Al Viro
2013-03-22  0:20                             ` Al Viro
2013-03-22  0:22                             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-22  1:22                               ` Al Viro
2013-03-22  1:33                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-22  1:40                                   ` Al Viro
2013-03-22  4:37                                     ` [CFT] " Al Viro
2013-03-22  4:55                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-22  5:18                                         ` Al Viro [this message]
2013-03-22  5:33                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-22  6:09                                             ` Al Viro
2013-03-22  6:22                                               ` Al Viro
2013-03-22 16:23                                             ` Dave Jones
2013-03-22 19:43                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-22 21:28                                               ` Al Viro
2013-03-22 22:57                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-22  5:19                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-22  0:08                         ` Al Viro
2013-03-22  0:15                           ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-22  0:19                             ` Linus Torvalds

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20130322051817.GM21522@ZenIV.linux.org.uk \
    --to=viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk \
    --cc=davej@redhat.com \
    --cc=ebiederm@xmission.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=torvalds@linux-foundation.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox

Powered by JetHome