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From: Eric Wong <normalperson@yhbt.net>
To: Fredrik Tolf <fredrik@dolda2000.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: I/O blocked while dirty pages are being flushed
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:56:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130324065605.GA19984@dcvr.yhbt.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1303240543280.4028@shack.dolda2000.com>

Fredrik Tolf <fredrik@dolda2000.com> wrote:
> It is worth noting, also, that this seems to be a situation
> introduced somewhere between 2.6.26 and 2.6.32, because I started
> noticing it when I upgraded from Debian 5.0 to 6.0. I've since tried
> it on 3.2.0, 3.5.4 and 3.7.1, and it appears in every version.
> However, I can't easily go back and bisect, because the new init
> scripts don't support kernels older than 2.6.32, unfortunately.

I'm not sure about Debian-specific changes to the kernel, but
in the stock kernel, the dirty*ratios changes could affect you:

before 2.6.22  dirty_ratio=40 dirty_background_ratio=10
2.6.22-2.6.29  dirty_ratio=10 dirty_background_ratio=5
2.6.30-...     dirty_ratio=20 dirty_background_ratio=10

So try lowering these sysctls to 2.6.26 levels (or lower) and see if
that helps.

Fwiw, I usually use dirty_ratio=2 dirty_background_ratio=1 on servers
with a few gigs of RAM (or appropriately low dirty*bytes values).

Lowering dirty*ratio helps servers get more consistent performance under
constant I/O pressure and aggressively throttles processes before a
large amount of dirty pages becomes a problem (as you've noticed).

High dirty*ratio is good for some bursty desktop workloads and some
benchmarks, though...

ref: commit 07db59bd6b0f279c31044cba6787344f63be87ea
ref: commit 1b5e62b42b55c509eea04c3c0f25e42c8b35b564


Heck, on a particularly bad server (2.6.18, pre-dirty_*bytes sysctl)
with lots of RAM and horrible disk throughput (~10M/s), I set both
dirty_writeback_centisecs and dirty_expire_centisecs to 100 to get
acceptable performance for writing HTTP access logs.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-24  6:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-24  5:12 Fredrik Tolf
2013-03-24  6:56 ` Eric Wong [this message]
2013-03-25  7:34   ` Fredrik Tolf
2013-03-24 10:27 ` Bart Van Assche
2013-03-25  7:31   ` Fredrik Tolf
2013-04-09 22:11     ` Jan Kara

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