From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754044Ab3GKQnD (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:43:03 -0400 Received: from merlin.infradead.org ([205.233.59.134]:48082 "EHLO merlin.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751477Ab3GKQnB (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:43:01 -0400 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 18:42:04 +0200 From: Peter Zijlstra To: Steven Rostedt Cc: Sasha Levin , Dave Jones , Tejun Heo , tglx@linutronix.de, LKML , trinity@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: timer: lockup in run_timer_softirq() Message-ID: <20130711164204.GK25631@dyad.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <51DC902F.3070403@oracle.com> <20130709224706.GA13855@redhat.com> <51DC9379.9050408@oracle.com> <20130709230316.GB13855@redhat.com> <51DC983F.2010409@oracle.com> <20130710095210.GD17211@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <1373459254.7458.49.camel@gandalf.local.home> <20130710124245.GT25631@dyad.programming.kicks-ass.net> <1373461091.7458.55.camel@gandalf.local.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1373461091.7458.55.camel@gandalf.local.home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2012-12-30) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 08:58:11AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: > On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 14:42 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > but but but preempt_disable_notrace() isn't an rcu_read_lock().. You can only > > do that for rcu_sched. > > Right. And not even rcu_sched is safe, as function tracing can trace > functions out of rcu scope. That's why I had to add that code to do a > schedule_on_each_cpu() in ftrace. > > > > > Anyway, I don't see a nice way out of this mess :/ the entire perf core uses > > regular RCU and converting all that is going to me a nasty big patch. > > There is an easier way. We can add a way to have perf not trace specific > functions. Now there's already infrastructure there to pick and choose > what to trace and what not to for individual function tracing users like > perf. The trick will be how to annotate them. > > If there's a way to mark a function without moving it to a section, this > would be possible. Perhaps similar to EXPORT_SYMBOL(). We could add a > PERF_NOTRACE(). > > static void __local_bh_enable() > { > [...] > } > PERF_NOTRACE(__local_bh_enable); > > And add these to a black list of functions that perf should not trace. > > How's that sound? I'm afraid this is going to be hard to create and hard to keep correct :/ Other than that, a function tracer environment that is safer to use might be useful for other people as well.