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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, gcc <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	David Daney <ddaney.cavm@gmail.com>,
	Behan Webster <behanw@converseincode.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] gcc feature request: Moving blocks into sections
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 18:09:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130812160950.GT3008@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5208F78A.3000708@linux.intel.com>

On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 07:56:10AM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 08/12/2013 02:17 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > 
> > I've been wanting to 'abuse' static_key/asm-goto to sort-of JIT
> > if-forest functions like perf_prepare_sample() and perf_output_sample().
> > 
> > They are of the form:
> > 
> > void func(obj, args..)
> > {
> > 	unsigned long f = ...;
> > 
> > 	if (f & F1)
> > 		do_f1();
> > 
> > 	if (f & F2)
> > 		do_f2();
> > 
> > 	...
> > 
> > 	if (f & FN)
> > 		do_fn();
> > }
> > 
> 
> Am I reading this right that f can be a combination of any of these?

Correct.

> > Where f is constant for the entire lifetime of the particular object.
> > 
> > So I was thinking of having these functions use static_key/asm-goto;
> > then write the proper static key values unsafe so as to avoid all
> > trickery (as these functions would never actually be used) and copy the
> > end result into object private memory. The object will then use indirect
> > calls into these functions.
> 
> I'm really not following what you are proposing here, especially not
> "copy the end result into object private memory."
> 
> With asm goto you end up with at minimum a jump or NOP for each of these
> function entries, whereas an actual JIT can elide that as well.
> 
> On the majority of architectures, including x86, you cannot simply copy
> a piece of code elsewhere and have it still work.

I thought we used -fPIC which would allow just that.

> You end up doing a
> bunch of the work that a JIT would do anyway, and would end up with
> considerably higher complexity and worse results than a true JIT.  

Well, less complexity but worse result, yes. We'd only poke the specific
static_branch sites with either NOPs or the (relative) jump target for
each of these branches. Then copy the result.

> You
> also say "the object will then use indirect calls into these
> functions"... you mean the JIT or pseudo-JIT generated functions, or the
> calls inside them?

The calls to these pseudo-JIT generated functions.

> > I suppose the question is, do people strenuously object to creativity
> > like that and or is there something GCC can do to make this
> > easier/better still?
> 
> I think it would be much easier to just write a minimal JIT for this,
> even though it is per architecture.  However, I would really like to
> understand what the value is.

Removing a lot of the conditionals from the sample path. Depending on
the configuration these can be quite expensive.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-08-12 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-05 16:55 Steven Rostedt
2013-08-05 17:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-05 17:24   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-05 17:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-05 17:15   ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-05 17:55   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-05 18:11     ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-05 18:17     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-05 18:23       ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-05 18:29         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-05 18:49           ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-05 18:51             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-05 19:01               ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-05 19:54                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2013-08-05 19:57                   ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-05 20:02                     ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-05 21:28                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2013-08-05 21:43                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-06  4:14                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2013-08-06  4:28                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-06 16:15                         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-06 16:19                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-06 16:26                             ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-06 16:29                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-05 21:44                       ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-05 22:08                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2013-08-05 19:09               ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-05 18:20     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-05 18:24       ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-05 18:34         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-05 18:38           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-05 19:04           ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-05 19:40           ` Marek Polacek
2013-08-05 19:56             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-05 19:57             ` Jason Baron
2013-08-05 20:35               ` Richard Henderson
2013-08-06  2:26                 ` Jason Baron
2013-08-06  3:03                   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-05 18:33       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-05 18:39       ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-05 18:49         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-05 19:39           ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-06 14:19           ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-06 17:48             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-06 17:58               ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-06 20:33                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2013-08-06 20:43                   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-07  0:45                     ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-07  0:56                       ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-07  5:06                         ` Ondřej Bílka
2013-08-07 15:02                           ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-07 16:03                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2013-08-07 16:11                               ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-07 23:22                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2013-08-05 20:06         ` Jason Baron
2013-08-05 19:04 ` Andi Kleen
2013-08-05 19:16   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-05 19:30     ` Xinliang David Li
2013-08-05 19:25   ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-12  9:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-12 14:56   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-12 16:02     ` Andi Kleen
2013-08-12 16:11       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-12 16:09     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2013-08-12 17:47       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-13  7:50         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-13 14:46           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-13 14:52             ` Steven Rostedt

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