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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <m.chehab@samsung.com>
Cc: "Naveen N. Rao" <naveen.n.rao@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	tony.luck@intel.com, bhelgaas@google.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	rjw@sisk.pl, lance.ortiz@hp.com, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] mce: acpi/apei: trace: Enable ghes memory error trace event
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 18:11:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130815161153.GI27616@pd.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130815111407.4080a744@samsung.com>

On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:14:07AM -0300, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> I don't see why should we have those two alternatives, as, at worse
> case (e. g. if ghes_edac can't enrich the APEI data with labels),
> they'll basically provide the very same data to userspace, and the
> EDAC extra overhead is small, on its error report logic.

Well, a couple of reasons.

The first and foremost one is having another layer which needs
registration, etc. because ghes_edac pulls the whole edac core stuff
with it. The thinner we are, the less overhead we cause. And this is
a must for RAS.

Actually, this is a must for all kernel code - the faster we can get
done and the thinner we are, the better. We absolutely definitely don't
want to have a useless layer in the error reporting path just because it
is easier.

This short path will pay out later in error storms and other
resources-constrained situations.

Furthermore, dealing with another edac driver is not trivial for
distros, like going around and telling people that all of a sudden
they need to enable ghes_edac. This is tangential to the issue which
Naveen raised that on some machines, you want not only ghes_edac but the
platform-specific one. Which doesn't work currently and we don't have a
clear solution on how to get it working yet.

Finally, userspace doesn't care where it gets its TP data from as long
as it is there.

> The risk of doing the very same thing on two different places is that
> the logic to encapsulate APEI data into trace_mc_event() would be on
> two separate places. It risks that someone would change one of the
> drivers and forget to apply the very same change on the other, causing
> parse errors on userspace, depending on the source.

We'll make sure that doesn't happen.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

Sent from a fat crate under my desk. Formatting is fine.
--

  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-15 16:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-08 18:27 [PATCH 0/3] Add trace event for ghes memory error Naveen N. Rao
2013-08-08 18:27 ` [PATCH 1/3] mce: acpi/apei: trace: Include PCIe AER trace event conditionally Naveen N. Rao
2013-08-08 19:23   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-12 11:37     ` Naveen N. Rao
2013-08-12 13:13       ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-12 13:26         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-08 18:27 ` [PATCH 2/3] mce: acpi/apei: trace: Add trace event for ghes memory error Naveen N. Rao
2013-08-08 19:17   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-12 11:28     ` Naveen N. Rao
2013-08-08 18:27 ` [PATCH 3/3] mce: acpi/apei: trace: Enable ghes memory error trace event Naveen N. Rao
2013-08-08 19:38   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-08-10 18:03     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-12 11:33       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-08-12 12:38         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-12 14:49           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-08-12 15:04             ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-12 17:25               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-08-12 17:54                 ` Luck, Tony
2013-08-12 17:56                 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-13 11:36                   ` Naveen N. Rao
2013-08-13 12:21                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-08-13 12:33                       ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-13 16:55                       ` Naveen N. Rao
2013-08-14 23:54                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-08-12 12:41         ` Naveen N. Rao
2013-08-12 12:53           ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-13 11:21             ` Naveen N. Rao
2013-08-13 12:42               ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-13 17:32                 ` Naveen N. Rao
2013-08-13 17:58                   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-13 18:05                     ` Luck, Tony
2013-08-13 18:10                       ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-13 20:13                         ` Luck, Tony
2013-08-14  5:43                           ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-14 18:38                             ` Luck, Tony
2013-08-15 10:14                               ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-15 19:14                                 ` Luck, Tony
2013-08-15 19:43                                   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-15  0:05                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-08-14 10:57                     ` Naveen N. Rao
2013-08-15  0:22                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-08-15  9:38                         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-15 13:26                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-08-15 13:44                             ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-15 14:14                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-08-15 16:11                                 ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2013-08-15 19:20                                 ` Luck, Tony
2013-08-15 19:41                                   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-15  0:00                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-08-15  9:43                     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-12 14:44           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-08-13 11:41             ` Naveen N. Rao
2013-08-13 12:41               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-08-13 17:17                 ` Naveen N. Rao
2013-08-13 17:39                   ` Luck, Tony
2013-08-14 10:47                     ` Naveen N. Rao
2013-08-14 12:18                       ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-15  0:15                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-08-15 10:01                         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-15 13:34                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-08-15 13:51                             ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-15 18:16                               ` Luck, Tony
2013-08-15 18:41                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-14 23:56                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-08-15 10:02                     ` Borislav Petkov

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