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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca,
	niv@us.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com,
	darren@dvhart.com, fweisbec@gmail.com, sbw@mit.edu,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 01/11] rcu: Expedite grace periods during suspend/resume
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 17:29:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130819002910.GR29406@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130818093444.GA26728@pd.tnic>

On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 11:34:44AM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 08:17:17PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 06:37:46PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
> > > 
> > > CONFIG_RCU_FAST_NO_HZ can increase grace-period durations by up to
> > > a factor of four, which can result in long suspend and resume times.
> > > Thus, this commit temporarily switches to expedited grace periods when
> > > suspending the box and return to normal settings when resuming.
> > > 
> > > [ paulmck: This also papers over an audio/irq bug, but hopefully that will
> > >   be fixed soon. ]
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>
> > > Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > 
> > This patch still seems like a hack, and there *ought* to be a better
> > general solution to avoid excessive grace-period latency.  Nonetheless,
> > in the absence of such a solution,
> > Reviewed-by: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>
> 
> Yeah, I'm not happy about it either but from quickly skimming over what
> context we're using rcu_expedited in, the basic requirement for a fix is
> for the pm core to be able to tell rcu not to stretch grace periods.
> 
> So simply setting a variable is much simpler than switching to calling
> all those *_expedited() rcu flavors from the pm notifier when going
> down.
> 
> Unless Paul has a better idea, of course.
> 
> The basic problem here is, however, that you need to temporarily
> reconfigure the inner workings of a subsystem because hardware is
> performing a power state transition. Unless someone teaches rcu about
> power state transitions... :-)

I would guess that once we have a few more subsystems that want RCU to
temporarily expedite its grace periods, we will have enough information
and experience to do something a bit more general.  In the meantime,
I am opting for something simple.  ;-)

							Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-19  0:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-18  1:37 [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/11] Fixes for 3.12 Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-18  1:37 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 01/11] rcu: Expedite grace periods during suspend/resume Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-18  1:37   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/11] rcu: Expedite during suspend and resume only on smallish systems Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-18  3:18     ` Josh Triplett
2013-08-19  0:32       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-18  1:37   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 03/11] rcu: Simplify debug-objects fixups Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-18  1:37   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 04/11] debugobjects: Make debug_object_activate() return status Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-18  1:37   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 05/11] rcu: Make call_rcu() leak callbacks for debug-object errors Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-18  1:37   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 06/11] rcu: Switch to exedited grace periods for suspend as well as hibernation Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-18  3:20     ` Josh Triplett
2013-08-19  0:33       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-18  1:37   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 07/11] rcu: Avoid redundant grace-period kthread wakeups Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-18  1:37   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 08/11] rculist: list_first_or_null_rcu() should use list_entry_rcu() Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-18  1:37   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 09/11] rcu: Select IRQ_WORK from TREE_PREEMPT_RCU Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-18  1:37   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 10/11] rcu: Simplify _rcu_barrier() processing Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-18  1:37   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 11/11] jiffies: Avoid undefined behavior from signed overflow Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-18  3:23     ` Josh Triplett
2013-08-19  0:41       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-19  1:20         ` Josh Triplett
2013-08-19  4:14           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-18  3:17   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 01/11] rcu: Expedite grace periods during suspend/resume Josh Triplett
2013-08-18  9:34     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-19  0:29       ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2013-08-19  9:18         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-18  3:24 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/11] Fixes for 3.12 Josh Triplett

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