From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Mike Travis <travis@sgi.com>
Cc: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net>,
Jason Wessel <jason.wessel@windriver.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Dimitri Sivanich <sivanich@sgi.com>, Hedi Berriche <hedi@sgi.com>,
x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 9/9] x86/UV: Add ability to disable UV NMI handler
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 11:03:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130910090349.GN26785@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <522E0037.3090107@sgi.com>
On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 10:07:03AM -0700, Mike Travis wrote:
>
>
> On 9/9/2013 5:43 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 05:50:41PM -0500, Mike Travis wrote:
> >> For performance reasons, the NMI handler may be disabled to lessen the
> >> performance impact caused by the multiple perf tools running concurently.
> >> If the system nmi command is issued when the UV NMI handler is disabled,
> >> the "Dazed and Confused" messages occur for all cpus. The NMI handler is
> >> disabled by setting the nmi disabled variable to '1'. Setting it back to
> >> '0' will re-enable the NMI handler.
> >
> > I'm not entirely sure why this is still needed now that you've moved all
> > really expensive bits into the UNKNOWN handler.
> >
>
> Yes, it could be considered optional. My primary use was to isolate
> new bugs I found to see if my NMI changes were causing them. But it
> appears that they are not since the problems occur with or without
> using the NMI entry into KDB. So it can be safely removed.
OK, as a debug option it might make sense, but removing it is (of course)
fine with me ;-)
> (The basic problem is that if you hang out in KDB too long the machine
> locks up.
Yeah, known issue. Not much you can do about it either I suspect. The
system generally isn't build for things like that.
> Other problems like the rcu stall detector does not have a
> means to be "touched" like the nmi_watchdog_timer so it fires off a
> few to many, many messages.
That however might be easily cured if you ask Paul nicely ;-)
> Another, any network connections will time
> out if you are in KDB more than say 20 or 30 seconds.)
>
> One other problem is with the perf tool. It seems running more than
> about 2 or 3 perf top instances on a medium (1k cpu threads) sized
> system, they start behaving badly with a bunch of NMI stackdumps
> appearing on the console. Eventually the system become unusable.
Yuck.. I haven't seen anything like that on the 'tiny' systems I have :/
> On a large system (4k), the perf tools get an error message (sorry
> don't have it handy at the moment) the basically implies that the
> perf config option is not set. Again, I wanted to remove the new
> NMI handler to insure that it wasn't doing something weird, and
> it wasn't.
Cute..
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-10 9:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-05 22:50 [PATCH 0/9] x86/UV/KDB/NMI: Updates for NMI/KDB handler for SGI UV Mike Travis
2013-09-05 22:50 ` [PATCH 1/9] x86/UV: Move NMI support Mike Travis
2013-09-05 22:50 ` [PATCH 2/9] x86/UV: Update UV support for external NMI signals Mike Travis
2013-09-05 22:50 ` [PATCH 3/9] x86/UV: Add summary of cpu activity to UV NMI handler Mike Travis
2013-09-05 22:50 ` [PATCH 4/9] x86/UV: Add kdump " Mike Travis
2013-09-05 22:50 ` [PATCH 5/9] KGDB/KDB: add support for external NMI handler to call KGDB/KDB Mike Travis
2013-09-06 4:36 ` Jason Wessel
2013-09-05 22:50 ` [PATCH 6/9] x86/UV: Add call to KGDB/KDB from NMI handler Mike Travis
2013-09-05 22:50 ` [PATCH 7/9] KGDB/KDB: add new system NMI entry code to KDB Mike Travis
2013-09-06 5:00 ` Jason Wessel
2013-09-06 16:48 ` Mike Travis
2013-09-05 22:50 ` [PATCH 8/9] x86/UV: Add uvtrace support Mike Travis
2013-09-05 22:50 ` [PATCH 9/9] x86/UV: Add ability to disable UV NMI handler Mike Travis
2013-09-09 12:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-09 17:07 ` Mike Travis
2013-09-10 9:03 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2013-09-12 17:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-12 18:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-12 19:08 ` Mike Travis
2013-09-12 18:59 ` Mike Travis
2013-09-12 19:48 ` Hedi Berriche
2013-09-12 20:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-12 20:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20130910090349.GN26785@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net \
--to=peterz@infradead.org \
--cc=acme@ghostprotocols.net \
--cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=hedi@sgi.com \
--cc=hpa@zytor.com \
--cc=jason.wessel@windriver.com \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=mingo@redhat.com \
--cc=paulus@samba.org \
--cc=sivanich@sgi.com \
--cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
--cc=travis@sgi.com \
--cc=x86@kernel.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox
all inboxes | Powered by JetHome®