From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Vince Weaver <vincent.weaver@maine.edu>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: perf/tracepoint: another fuzzer generated lockup
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 16:53:47 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131111155347.GK19203@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131111124419.GA6740@gmail.com>
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 01:44:19PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > That said, I'm not sure what kernel you're running, but there were
> > > some issues with time-keeping hereabouts, but more importantly that
> > > second timing includes the printk() call of the first -- so that's
> > > always going to be fucked.
> >
> > It's a recent tip:master. So the delta debug printout is certainly
> > buggy, meanwhile these lockup only happen with Vince selftests, and they
> > trigger a lot of these NMI-too-long issues, or may be that's the other
> > way round :)...
> >
> > I'm trying to narrow down the issue, lets hope the lockup is not
> > actually due to printk itself.
>
> I'd _very_ strongly suggest to not include the printk() overhead in the
> execution time delta! What that function wants to report is pure NMI
> execution overhead, not problem reporting overhead.
>
> That way any large number reported there is always a bug somewhere,
> somehow.
-ENOPATCH :-)
You'll find that there's two levels of measuring NMI latency and the
outer will invariably include the reporting of the inner one; fixing
that is going to be hideously ugly.
That said, I would very strongly suggest to tear that printk() from the
NMI path, its just waiting to wreck someone's machine :-)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-11-11 15:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-08 19:45 Vince Weaver
2013-11-08 20:06 ` Vince Weaver
2013-11-08 20:02 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-08 20:23 ` Vince Weaver
2013-11-08 20:48 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-08 21:15 ` Vince Weaver
2013-11-08 22:24 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-08 22:36 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-09 1:09 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-11-09 14:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-09 14:20 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-11 12:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-11 15:53 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2013-11-11 21:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-09 14:52 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-09 15:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-09 15:27 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-09 15:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-09 16:08 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-09 15:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-09 15:22 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-09 15:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-14 15:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-14 15:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-14 15:35 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-15 1:16 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-11-15 12:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-15 14:15 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-11-15 14:28 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-17 7:53 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-11-17 9:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-14 16:03 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-14 17:20 ` Vince Weaver
2013-11-14 17:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-14 17:41 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-11-14 19:18 ` Vince Weaver
2013-11-19 19:18 ` [tip:perf/urgent] ftrace, perf: Avoid infinite event generation loop tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-09 0:25 ` perf/tracepoint: another fuzzer generated lockup Frederic Weisbecker
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