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From: Grant Likely <grant.likely@linaro.org>
To: Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] DT match helpers for initcalls and platform devices
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 12:53:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131121125349.9727DC40A2C@trevor.secretlab.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL_JsqJ3GANeMNi3iXQY_rB-NoovmwZx7EXfbG=rS6MxS=NLvQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 15:02:40 -0500, Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 3:26 AM, Thierry Reding
> <thierry.reding@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 01:12:49AM -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
> >> From: Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>
> >>
> >> This series adds a couple of boilerplate helpers to match with DT for
> >> initcalls and platform device creation and probe. The goal here is to
> >> remove more platform code out of arch/arm and eventually the machine
> >> descriptors.
> >
> > I fear that this is a step backwards because it makes it easier for
> > people to do the wrong thing. We've been doing the same with interrupt
> > controllers and clocks. With those there's at least the argument that
> > they need to be available really early and therefore cannot use the
> > regular driver model. But for everything else, shouldn't we enforce
> > proper drivers to be written?
> 
> You think both are a step backwards or just the initcall one? For
> initcalls, there are things which are not drivers, but just one time
> init.  The example on highbank is highbank_pm_init. In some cases like
> cpuidle, they have been converted to platform drivers, but then we
> have platform code to create devices if we are on the relevant
> platform. There is not really a real device node that exists for some
> of these drivers and we need to create the device rather than the
> device getting created by scanning the buses in the DT.
> 
> I think this is less error prone because we've had cases of
> unconditional initcalls which break multi-platform kernels.

In that situation, it would probably be better to simply do what you
need to do at initcall level and not register a struct device at all.

If the situation is you absolutely need to create a device because the
DT does not provide what you need (and the DT cannot be changed) then I
strongly recommend separating the driver code and the registration code
into separate blocks because it enforces separation between device
enumaration and device driver probing.

g.


      parent reply	other threads:[~2013-11-21 12:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-30  6:12 Rob Herring
     [not found] ` < 1383113571-13029-2-git-send-email-robherring2@gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <20131121124736. 6EBEBC40A2C@trevor.secretlab.ca>
     [not found] ` < 20131030082621.GA22787@ulmo.nvidia.com>
     [not found] ` < 1383113571-13029-3-git-send-email-robherring2@gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <20131121125007. 17A8FC40A2C@trevor.secretlab.ca>
2013-10-30  6:12 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] driver core: introduce module_platform_driver_match_and_probe Rob Herring
2013-11-21 12:47   ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 22:33     ` Rob Herring
2013-11-21 23:11       ` Grant Likely
2013-10-30  6:12 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] of: add initcall with match boilerplate helpers Rob Herring
2013-11-21 12:50   ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 23:23     ` Rob Herring
2013-11-27 15:22       ` Grant Likely
2013-12-05 17:57         ` Rob Herring
2013-10-30  8:26 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] DT match helpers for initcalls and platform devices Thierry Reding
2013-10-30 20:02   ` Rob Herring
2013-10-30 21:40     ` Rob Herring
2013-11-21 12:53     ` Grant Likely [this message]

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