From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>
Cc: Nicolas Schichan <nschichan@freebox.fr>,
Leigh Brown <leigh@solinno.co.uk>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Florian Fainelli <florian@openwrt.org>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Sebastian Hesselbarth <sebastian.hesselbarth@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Spurious timeouts in mvmdio
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 12:40:34 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131203124033.GT16735@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131203122346.GD29282@titan.lakedaemon.net>
On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 07:23:46AM -0500, Jason Cooper wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 04:15:54PM +0100, Nicolas Schichan wrote:
> > During 3.13-rc1 testing, I have found out that the mvmdio driver
> > would report timeouts on the kernel console:
> >
> > [ 11.011334] orion-mdio orion-mdio: Timeout: SMI busy for too long
> >
> > The hardware is a MV88F6281 Kirkwood CPU. The mvmdio driver is using
> > the irq line 46 (ge00_err).
> >
> > I am inclined to believe that it is due to the fact that
> > wait_event_timeout() is called with a timeout parameter of 1 jiffy
> > in orion_mdio_wait_ready(). If the timer interrupt ticks right after
> > calling wait_event_timeout(), we may end up spending much less time
> > than MVMDIO_SMI_TIMEOUT (1 msec) in wait_event_timeout(), and as a
> > result report a timeout as the MDIO access did not complete in such
> > a short time.
> >
> > As to how to fix this, I see two options (I don't know which one
> > would be prefered):
> >
> > - Option 1: always pass a timeout of at least 2 jiffy to wait_event_timeout().
> > - Option 2: switch to wait_event_hrtimeout().
> >
> > I can provide patches for both options.
>
> Based on yesterday's irc chat, option 1 sounds good. Here's the dump
> from yesterday where Sebastian provided a thorough explanation:
>
> 11:29 < shesselba> increasing max timeout to 2 ticks at least sounds reasonable
> 11:29 < shesselba> 10ms should be enough for every CONFIG_HZ there is
>
> 11:30 < kos_tom> why make the timeout tied to the ticks? there are functions/macros to convert real time numbers into ticks.
> 11:30 < kos_tom> msecs_to_jiffies() or something
>
> 11:31 < shesselba> kos_tom: it is already using usecs_to_jiffies()
> 11:31 < shesselba> the thing is: 1ms is less than a jiffy
Yes, and the kernels time conversion functions aren't stupid. Let's
look at this function's implementation:
unsigned long usecs_to_jiffies(const unsigned int u)
{
if (u > jiffies_to_usecs(MAX_JIFFY_OFFSET))
return MAX_JIFFY_OFFSET;
#if HZ <= USEC_PER_SEC && !(USEC_PER_SEC % HZ)
return (u + (USEC_PER_SEC / HZ) - 1) / (USEC_PER_SEC / HZ);
#elif HZ > USEC_PER_SEC && !(HZ % USEC_PER_SEC)
return u * (HZ / USEC_PER_SEC);
#else
return (USEC_TO_HZ_MUL32 * u + USEC_TO_HZ_ADJ32)
>> USEC_TO_HZ_SHR32;
#endif
}
Now, assuming HZ=100 and USEC_PER_SEC=1000000, we will use:
return (u + (USEC_PER_SEC / HZ) - 1) / (USEC_PER_SEC / HZ);
If you ask for 1us, this comes out as:
return (1 + (1000000 / 100) - 1) / (1000000 / 100);
which is one jiffy. So, for a requested 1us period, you're given a
1 jiffy interval, or 10ms. For other (sensible) values:
return (USEC_TO_HZ_MUL32 * u + USEC_TO_HZ_ADJ32)
>> USEC_TO_HZ_SHR32;
gets used, which has a similar behaviour.
Now, depending on how you use this one jiffy interval, the thing to realise
is that with this kind of loop:
timeout = jiffies + usecs_to_jiffies(1);
do {
something;
} while (time_is_before_jiffies(timeout));
what this equates to is:
} while (jiffies - timeout < 0);
What this means is that the loop breaks at jiffies = timeout, so it can
indeed timeout before one tick - within 0 to 10ms for HZ=100. The problem
is not the usecs_to_jiffies(), it's with the implementation.
If you use time_is_before_eq_jiffies() instead, it will also loop if
jiffies == timeout, which will give you the additional safety margin -
meaning it will timeout after 10 to 20ms instead.
You may wish to consider coding this differently as well - if you have
the error interrupt, there's no need for this loop. You only need the
loop if you're using usleep_range(). Note the return value of
wait_event_timeout() will tell you positively and correctly if the waited
condition succeeded or you timed out.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-12-03 12:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-02 15:15 Nicolas Schichan
2013-12-03 12:23 ` Jason Cooper
2013-12-03 12:40 ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2013-12-03 13:43 ` Jason Cooper
2013-12-03 18:48 ` Nicolas Schichan
2013-12-03 20:57 ` Leigh Brown
2013-12-03 22:45 ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-12-03 23:20 ` Leigh Brown
2013-12-03 23:17 ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-12-03 23:38 ` Leigh Brown
2013-12-03 23:42 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-12-04 11:40 ` Nicolas Schichan
2013-12-16 18:07 ` Nicolas Schichan
2013-12-16 18:28 ` Leigh Brown
2013-12-17 13:49 ` Nicolas Schichan
2013-12-16 18:48 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-12-03 23:45 ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-12-03 13:16 ` [PATCH] net: mvmdio: fix wait_event_timeout() being called with a 1 jiffy timeout Nicolas Schichan
2013-12-03 13:34 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
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