From: "George Spelvin" <linux@horizon.com>
To: linux@horizon.com, price@MIT.EDU, tytso@MIT.EDU
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Replace /dev/random input mix polynomial with Brent's xorgen?
Date: 15 Dec 2013 17:09:10 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131215220910.24012.qmail@science.horizon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131215200312.GO27191@athena.dialup.mit.edu>
> My draft patch series uses Skein/Threefish. The authors conveniently
> specified a way to use it as a PRNG, and it's very fast without
> special hardware support (consequently, for all kinds of hardware.)
> On my laptop, reading from /dev/urandom becomes about 25 times faster
> for large reads, and about 40% faster for small reads where the
> syscall overhead is more important.
Well, /dev/urandom is documented as being *deliberately* slow. It's meant
only to produce 128 to 256 bits of seed material for CPRNG. I don't
know if Ted considers speeding it up to be goal or an antigoal. :-)
One thing i've thought about is adding a /dev/frandom, which is seeded
once at open time and then produces a "reasonably strong" large block of
cryptographic output, very quickly. (Key size between 128 and 192 bits.)
I understand why Ted didn't do this in the first place, but the number
of people I see doing something like "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sdx"
to test incompressible data is remarkable.
If the additional code is small, perhaps it's worth doing.
BTW, if it helps on 32-bit platforms I can get you rotate constats for
a 32-bit version of threefish. I haven't generated a key scheduling
constant, though.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-12-15 22:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-14 9:06 George Spelvin
2013-12-14 19:23 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-12-14 21:55 ` George Spelvin
2013-12-15 2:21 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-12-15 8:34 ` George Spelvin
2013-12-15 22:19 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-12-16 4:22 ` George Spelvin
2013-12-16 6:43 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-12-16 6:49 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-12-16 15:03 ` George Spelvin
2013-12-15 20:03 ` Greg Price
2013-12-15 22:09 ` George Spelvin [this message]
2013-12-16 0:32 ` Greg Price
2013-12-16 6:53 ` George Spelvin
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