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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
Cc: Aravind Gopalakrishnan <aravind.gopalakrishnan@amd.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Kim Naru <kim.naru@amd.com>,
	Sherry Hurwitz <sherry.hurwitz@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86, CPU, AMD: Add workaround for family 16h, erratum 793
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 11:18:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140117101842.GB8715@pd.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140117002123.GA9165@khazad-dum.debian.net>

On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:21:24PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Jan 2014, Aravind Gopalakrishnan wrote:
> > We might want to still have a software fix for this just in case
> > someone uses older BIOSes..
> 
> There is no "just in case" when it comes to someone using outdated firmware.
> It is a *given*, except for hardware that is only used in HPC and multiple
> (> 2) socket servers/workstations (which might be the case here, I don't
> know what processors we're talking about).
> 
> The vast majority of PC users will never update their firmware, unless the
> update is automatically offered to them, and sometimes not even in that
> case.

We also cannot carry *every* erratum workaround in the kernel just
because people don't update firmware. Firmware is becoming ubiquitous,
sadly, and because of that, admins should provision for firmware
upgrades too.

Besides, *even* if we put *all* errata fixes in the kernel, you'd need
to update it anyway and reboot. In this case, you can just as well
update your firmware instead, which involves that same reboot.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

Sent from a fat crate under my desk. Formatting is fine.
--

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-01-17 10:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-14 11:41 AMD errata 793 (CVE-2013-6885) needs a workaround in Linux? Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2014-01-14 11:55 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-01-14 15:14   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-14 15:35     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-01-14 16:27       ` [PATCH] x86, CPU, AMD: Add workaround for family 16h, erratum 793 Borislav Petkov
2014-01-14 16:30         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-14 16:42           ` Borislav Petkov
2014-01-14 17:46             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-14 23:07               ` [PATCH -v1.1] " Borislav Petkov
2014-01-15  0:38                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-15 11:10                   ` [PATCH -v1.2] " Borislav Petkov
2014-01-15  0:45                 ` [tip:x86/urgent] x86, cpu, amd: " tip-bot for Borislav Petkov
2014-01-15  0:54                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-15  6:28                     ` Ingo Molnar
2014-01-15 13:36                       ` Borislav Petkov
2014-01-15 13:52                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-15 18:38                           ` Ingo Molnar
2014-01-16  4:11                             ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]         ` <52D59ACC.3090100@amd.com>
2014-01-14 20:38           ` [PATCH] x86, CPU, AMD: " Borislav Petkov
2014-01-16 17:58             ` Aravind Gopalakrishnan
2014-01-16 18:10               ` Borislav Petkov
2014-01-17  0:21               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2014-01-17  0:25                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-17 10:18                 ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2014-01-17 16:23                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-17 17:02                     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-01-17 17:36                       ` Aravind Gopalakrishnan
2014-01-17 17:42                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-17 18:05                         ` Aravind Gopalakrishnan
2014-01-17 18:25                           ` Borislav Petkov
2014-01-17 22:28         ` Pavel Machek
2014-01-17 22:50           ` Borislav Petkov
2014-01-17 22:51             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-17 22:57               ` Borislav Petkov
2014-01-18  0:29               ` Pavel Machek
2014-01-18  1:21                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-18  2:01                   ` Pavel Machek
2014-01-18 10:42                     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-01-18 11:08                       ` Pavel Machek
2014-01-18 11:26                         ` Borislav Petkov
2014-01-18 11:31                           ` Pavel Machek

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