From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] de-asmify the x86-64 system call slowpath
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 07:42:09 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140127074208.GB10323@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFzCtJ5gfw__3A=zkjJdv9Ag2CAmtHG5MnrRnCZYqz7EQA@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 08:32:09PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Umm... Can't uprobe_notify_resume() modify regs as well?
>
> Probably.
>
> .. and on the other hand, we should actually be able to use 'sysret'
> for signal handling on x86-64, because while sysret destroys %rcx and
> doesn't allow for returning to odd modes, for calling a signal handler
> I don't think we really care..
I'm afraid we might:
* When user can change the frames always force IRET. That is because
* it deals with uncanonical addresses better. SYSRET has trouble
* with them due to bugs in both AMD and Intel CPUs.
IIRC, that was about SYSRET with something unpleasant left in RCX, which
comes from regs->ip, which is set to sa_handler by __setup_rt_frame().
And we do not normalize or validate that - not in __setup_rt_frame() and
not at sigaction(2) time. Something about GPF triggered and buggering
attacker-chosen memory area? I don't remember details, but IIRC the
conclusion had been "just don't go there"...
Note that we can manipulate regs->ip and regs->sp, regardless of validation
at sigaction(2) or __setup_rt_frame() - just have the sucker ptraced, send
it a signal and it'll stop on delivery. Then tracer can use ptrace to modify
registers and issue PTRACE_CONT with zero signal. Voila - regs->[is]p
set to arbitrary values, no signal handlers triggered...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-01-27 7:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-26 22:28 Linus Torvalds
2014-01-27 0:22 ` Al Viro
2014-01-27 4:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-01-27 4:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-27 7:42 ` Al Viro [this message]
2014-01-27 22:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-01-27 22:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-01-27 22:32 ` Al Viro
2014-01-27 22:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-01-27 22:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-01-28 0:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-28 0:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-01-27 23:07 ` Al Viro
2014-01-27 10:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-27 11:36 ` Al Viro
2014-01-27 17:39 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-01-28 1:18 ` Al Viro
2014-01-28 16:38 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-01-28 16:48 ` Al Viro
2014-01-28 17:19 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-06 0:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-06 0:55 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-02-06 2:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-06 4:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-06 21:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-06 22:24 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-02-07 1:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-07 15:42 ` [RFC, PATCH] mm: map few pages around fault address if they are in page cache Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-02-07 17:32 ` Andi Kleen
2014-02-07 17:56 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-02-07 18:11 ` Andi Kleen
2014-02-06 5:42 ` [RFC] de-asmify the x86-64 system call slowpath Ingo Molnar
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