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From: Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@linaro.org>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Laura Abbott <lauraa@codeaurora.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@codeaurora.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] Add devicetree scanning for randomness
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:56:24 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140218175624.GY7862@titan.lakedaemon.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdW7S=o4oHVsNtYo0i_giB5cgWhygo-GgSaA1Kur6m3vng@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:07:50PM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 7:23 PM, Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net> wrote:
> >> Could we use a faster hash function that scans the entire device tree and
> >> then just feed the output of that into add_device_randomness? We probably
> >> can't expect that there is a lot of entropy in the DT blob, so the
> >> result wouldn't be all that different in terms of quality of the random
> >> seed.
> >
> > I think it would be easier to identify the few attributes that differ
> > from board to board (mac address, serial number, etc), and differ from
> > boot to boot (random-seed, timestamp) and just extract and feed those
> > in.
> 
> Isn't identifying those (mostly) a manual process?
> Calculating a fast hash is fully automatic.

The list would be pretty short, and once created wouldn't likely change
too often.  But it really depends on the 'fast hash'.  if the two
methods have comparable speed, I'd definitely prefer the hash.  Easier
to maintain.

thx,

Jason.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-18 17:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-12  1:33 Laura Abbott
     [not found] ` < 201402121251.06280.arnd@arndb.de>
2014-02-12  1:33 ` [RFC/PATCH 1/3] of: Add early randomness hooks Laura Abbott
2014-02-12 16:47   ` Grant Likely
2014-02-12  1:33 ` [RFC/PATCH 2/3] arm: Add ARCH_WANT_OF_RANDOMNESS Laura Abbott
2014-02-12 16:49   ` Grant Likely
2014-02-13  0:54     ` Laura Abbott
2014-02-12  1:33 ` [RFC/PATCH 3/3] init: Move stack canary initialization after setup_arch Laura Abbott
2014-02-12 11:51 ` [RFC/PATCH 0/3] Add devicetree scanning for randomness Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-12 17:45   ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-12 18:13     ` Olof Johansson
2014-02-12 18:32       ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-12 18:17     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-12 18:45       ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-12 19:12         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-12 19:43           ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-12 23:55           ` Rob Herring
2014-02-12 18:20     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-02-12 18:51       ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-17 15:54       ` Grant Likely
2014-02-17 16:13         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-17 18:23           ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-17 21:07             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-02-18 17:56               ` Jason Cooper [this message]
2014-02-18  9:39           ` Grant Likely
2014-02-18 18:19         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-02-12 21:35     ` Kees Cook
2014-02-13  0:06   ` Laura Abbott

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