From: Kevin Easton <kevin@guarana.org>
To: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Cc: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
"Zuckerman, Boris" <borisz@hp.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
"Theodore T'so" <tytso@mit.edu>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>,
DaveC@chicago.guarana.org
Subject: Re: Update of file offset on write() etc. is non-atomic with I/O
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 12:18:06 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140223011806.GA13677@chicago.guarana.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKgNAkjFquLPDBXCS50pzVz0EiSfgvJjrG6cEVMFwKZopeHHBg@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 07:01:31AM +0100, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> Here's the fulll list from POSIX.1-2008/SUSv4 Section XSI 2.9.7:
>
> [[
> 2.9.7 Thread Interactions with Regular File Operations
>
> All of the following functions shall be atomic with respect to each
> other in the effects specified in
> POSIX.1-2008 when they operate on regular files or symbolic links:
>
> chmod( )
> chown( )
> close( )
> creat( )
> dup2( )
> fchmod( )
> fchmodat( )
> fchown( )
> fchownat( )
> fcntl( )
> fstat( )
> fstatat( )
> ftruncate( )
> lchown( )
> link( )
> linkat( )
> lseek( )
> lstat( )
> open( )
> openat( )
> pread( )
> read( )
> readlink( )
> readlinkat( )
> readv( )
> pwrite( )
> rename( )
> renameat( )
> stat( )
> symlink( )
> symlinkat( )
> truncate( )
> unlink( )
> unlinkat( )
> utime( )
> utimensat( )
> utimes( )
> write( )
> writev( )
>
> If two threads each call one of these functions, each call shall
> either see all of the specified effects
> of the other call, or none of them.
> ]]
>
> I'd bet that there's a bunch of violations to be found, but the
> read/write f_pos case is one of the most egregious.
>
> For example, I got curious about stat() versus rename(). If one
> stat()s a directory() while a subdirectory is being renamed to a new
> name within that directory, does the link count of the parent
> directory ever change--that is, could stat() ever see a changed link
> count in the middle of the rename()? My experiments suggest that it
> can. I suppose it would have to be a very unusual application that
> would be troubled by that, but it does appear to be a violation of
> 2.9.7.
A directory isn't a regular file or symlink, though, so the warranty
would seem to be void in that case.
If you {f}stat() a regular file that is being concurrently renamed() then
the link count shouldn't vary, though.
- Kevin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-02-23 1:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <a8df285f-de7f-4a3a-9a19-e0ad07ab3a5c@blur>
2014-02-20 18:15 ` Zuckerman, Boris
2014-02-20 18:29 ` Al Viro
2014-02-21 6:01 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-02-23 1:18 ` Kevin Easton [this message]
2014-02-23 7:38 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-03-03 21:03 George Spelvin
2014-03-03 21:26 ` Al Viro
2014-03-03 21:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-03-03 22:01 ` Al Viro
2014-03-03 22:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-03-03 23:28 ` Al Viro
2014-03-03 23:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-03-03 23:42 ` Al Viro
2014-03-03 23:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-03-04 0:23 ` Al Viro
2014-03-04 0:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-03-04 1:05 ` Al Viro
2014-03-04 20:00 ` Al Viro
2014-03-04 21:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-03-05 0:04 ` Al Viro
2014-03-10 15:55 ` Al Viro
2014-03-03 22:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-03-03 23:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-03-03 23:39 ` Al Viro
2014-03-03 23:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-03-03 23:54 ` Al Viro
2014-03-04 20:11 ` Cedric Blancher
2014-03-04 0:07 ` George Spelvin
2014-05-04 7:04 ` Michael Kerrisk
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-02-17 15:41 Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-02-18 13:00 ` Michael Kerrisk
2014-02-20 17:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-03-03 17:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-03-03 21:45 ` Al Viro
2014-03-03 21:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-03-03 22:09 ` Al Viro
2014-03-03 22:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-03-03 22:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-03-03 22:10 ` Al Viro
2014-03-03 22:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-03-06 15:03 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-03-07 3:38 ` Yongzhi Pan
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