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From: Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>
To: Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	dcbw@redhat.com, mcgrof@do-not-panic.com, zoltan.kiss@citrix.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru, jmorris@namei.org, yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org,
	kaber@trash.net
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 2/4] net: enables interface option to skip IP
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 03:23:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140225022310.GH6598@order.stressinduktion.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1393293719.6823.148.camel@deadeye.wl.decadent.org.uk>

On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 02:01:59AM +0000, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-02-24 at 19:12 -0500, David Miller wrote:
> > From: Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>
> > Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 00:02:00 +0000
> > 
> > > You can run an internal network, or access network, as v6-only with
> > > NAT64 and DNS64 at the border.  I believe some mobile networks are doing
> > > this; it was also done on the main FOSDEM wireless network this year.
> > 
> > This seems to be bloating up the networking headers of the internal
> > network, for what purpose?
> > 
> > For mobile that's doubly inadvisable.
> 
> I don't know what the reasoning is for the mobile network operators.
> They're forced to do NAT for v4 somewhere, and maybe v6-only makes the
> access network easier to manage.

Yes, it seems the way to go:
<http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/TMobile-Goes-IPv6-Only-on-Android-44-Devices-126506>

I can't comment on the 464xlat that much because I haven't looked at an
implementation yet, but it can very well be the case it still needs IPv4
on the outgoing interface, I don't know (from the spec pov it doesn't
look like that).

Greetings,

  Hannes


  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-25  2:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-15  2:59 [RFC v2 0/4] net: bridge / ip optimizations for virtual net backends Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-02-15  2:59 ` [RFC v2 1/4] bridge: enable interfaces to opt out from becoming the root bridge Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-02-16 18:56   ` Ben Hutchings
2014-02-16 18:57   ` Stephen Hemminger
2014-02-18 21:02     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-02-19  9:52       ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2014-02-19 14:35         ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-02-19 17:02           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-02-19 17:08             ` Stephen Hemminger
2014-02-19 17:59               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-02-20 17:19                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2014-02-20 20:24                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-02-21 13:02                     ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-02-21 16:01                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-02-22  1:38                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-02-20 13:19             ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-02-20 20:01               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-02-21 13:02                 ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-02-21 15:59                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-02-17 17:52   ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-02-19 16:45     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-02-20 14:47       ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-02-20 20:28         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-02-15  2:59 ` [RFC v2 2/4] net: enables interface option to skip IP Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-02-17 20:23   ` Dan Williams
2014-02-18 21:19     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-02-18 21:42       ` Stephen Hemminger
2014-02-19 17:13         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-02-19 16:45       ` Dan Williams
2014-02-19 17:20         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-02-19 19:13           ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-02-20 20:39             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-02-21 13:02               ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-02-22  1:40                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-02-20  0:56           ` Dan Williams
2014-02-20  0:58             ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-02-20  1:02               ` Dan Williams
2014-02-20 20:31             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-02-24 18:22               ` Dan Williams
2014-02-24 20:33                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-02-24 23:04                 ` David Miller
2014-02-25  0:02                   ` Ben Hutchings
2014-02-25  0:12                     ` David Miller
2014-02-25  2:01                       ` Ben Hutchings
2014-02-25  2:23                         ` Hannes Frederic Sowa [this message]
2014-02-25 19:50                       ` Paul Marks
2014-02-25 21:07                   ` Dan Williams
2014-02-25 21:18                     ` David Miller
2014-02-26  1:29                       ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-02-15  2:59 ` [RFC v2 3/4] xen-netback: use a random MAC address Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-02-17 10:29   ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2014-02-18 11:22     ` Ian Campbell
2014-02-18 21:30       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-02-15  2:59 ` [RFC v2 4/4] xen-netback: skip IPv4 and IPv6 interfaces Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-02-17 14:36   ` [Xen-devel] " Zoltan Kiss
2014-02-18 20:16     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-02-19  9:47       ` Ian Campbell
2014-02-17 10:27 ` [Xen-devel] [RFC v2 0/4] net: bridge / ip optimizations for virtual net backends David Vrabel
2014-02-18 19:43   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-02-19  9:48     ` Ian Campbell
2014-02-19 17:10       ` Luis R. Rodriguez

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