From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753609AbaCBWYf (ORCPT ); Sun, 2 Mar 2014 17:24:35 -0500 Received: from imta-35.everyone.net ([216.200.145.35]:34598 "EHLO imta-35.everyone.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752426AbaCBWYe (ORCPT ); Sun, 2 Mar 2014 17:24:34 -0500 X-Eon-Dm: dm23 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-Id: <20140302142352.52A6A3E3@m0005309.ppops.net> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 14:23:52 -0800 From: "NoTo CTTE" Reply-To: To: Cc: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , Subject: Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely - SysV is fine X-Eon-Sig: AQO+z1hTE694VuyuPAEAAAAQ,a9738097c8e1bbcade4836a37c2c48bf X-Originating-Ip: 5.135.180.223 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.87,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-03-02_02:2014-02-28,2014-03-02,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=3 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1403020150 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org You say nothing because there is nothing that you can say. Simplicity is beautiful, and it works. Systemd is a nightmare, but you are using politics and psyops to push it on every single linux user, every distro, everywhere. I showed you code that does your vaunted concurrent boot systemddeeeee in a few lines of shell. That simplicity was the way unix and linux was, before the windows programmers and the govt funded companies sunk their teeth into linux. You know what & does. I guess not, you're too new to gnu. --- yaro@marupa.net wrote: From: yaro@marupa.net To: usspookslovesystmd@muchomail.com Subject: Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely - SysV is fine Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 16:15:41 -0600 On Sunday, March 02, 2014 02:12:48 PM NoTo CTTE wrote: > System V is NOT hard to "maintain" > The scripts were written YEARS ago. They're fine. They do NOT need to be > changed. Debian SysV has concurrent boot aswell. > > Systemd is a poison apple. 200k lines of unaudited root privlege code. A > consulting service to go along with this new _operating system_ > > Here's an under 100 line init with concurrent boot: > > #include > #include > > int main() > { > sigset_t set; > int status; > > if (getpid() != 1) return 1; > > sigfillset(&set); > sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, &set, 0); > > if (fork()) for (;;) wait(&status); > > sigprocmask(SIG_UNBLOCK, &set, 0); > > setsid(); > setpgid(0, 0); > return execve("/etc/rc", (char *[]){ "rc", 0 }, (char *[]){ 0 }); > } > > >/etc/rc is a shell script > >syslogd && getty ; udev ; network-config ; sshd & cron & nginx > > see how much bullsht systemd is. > > > _____________________________________________________________ > The Free Email with so much more! > =====> http://www.MuchoMail.com <===== It'd be almost too easy to mock a laughable post like this, but I'll let someone else do it. It's just not fun anymore. Conrad _____________________________________________________________ The Free Email with so much more! =====> http://www.MuchoMail.com <=====