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From: Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@redhat.com>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: peterz@infradead.org, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, joe@perches.com,
	keescook@chromium.org, geert@linux-m68k.org, jkosina@suse.cz,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, davem@davemloft.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Change task_struct->comm to use RCU.
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 10:54:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140307155415.GB16640@madcap2.tricolour.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201403072120.BJB73489.OFMSOFHQFtOJLV@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

On 14/03/07, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >   https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/5/17/516

> Thank you for pointing that thread out. I found the following comment in that
> thread.
> 
> Linus Torvalds wrote:
> | What folks?
> | 
> | I don't think a new lock (or any lock) is at all appropriate.
> | 
> | There's just no point. Just guarantee that the last byte is always
> | zero, and you're done.
> | 
> | If you just guarantee that, THERE IS NO RACE. The last byte never
> | changes. You may get odd half-way strings, but you've trivially
> | guaranteed that they are C NUL-terminated, with no locking, no memory
> | ordering, no nothing.

> > >   Likewise, audit_log_untrustedstring(ab, current->comm) is racy.
> > >   If task->comm was "Hello Linux" until audit_string_contains_control() in
> > >   audit_log_n_untrustedstring() returns false, and becomes "Penguin" before
> > >   memcpy() in audit_log_n_string() is called, memcpy() will emit "Penguin\0nux"
> > >   into the audit log, which results in loss of information (e.g. SELinux
> > >   context) due to the unexpected '\0' byte.
> > 
> > I expect the audit people don't like this? Also, how do audit and the
> > LSM crap things interact? I thought they were both different piles of
> > ignorable goo?
> 
> I think the audit people do not like loss of information. Some of LSM modules
> are using audit subsystem for recording security related events. An example is
> shown later.

This is true, however since comm it untrusted because it can be modified
by the user audit doesn't trust it anyways, so who cares?

> > How about you do what you're supposed to do when you want a reliable
> > ->comm and use get_task_comm()?
> 
> I always want a reliable ->comm . But get_task_comm() is not for calling from
> vsnprintf(), for somebody might read task's commname from NMI context.
> I tried to use RCU for reading from vsnprintf() but Linus will not accept it.

- RGB

--
Richard Guy Briggs <rbriggs@redhat.com>
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-07 15:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <201402072303.DJD13007.JFFMSLHOOFQOtV@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
     [not found] ` <20140207140536.943daf965008b9428cdcb468@linux-foundation.org>
     [not found]   ` <201402081055.BGJ73403.tQMLFVOJSOOFFH@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
     [not found]     ` <20140207180647.5944fe3d.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
     [not found]       ` <201402092327.JAD12489.QOLSFVMHJtFOOF@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
2014-02-10 13:43         ` [PATCH (draft)] " Tetsuo Handa
2014-02-17 11:27           ` [PATCH] " Tetsuo Handa
2014-02-24 23:51             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-02-26 13:44               ` Tetsuo Handa
2014-02-26 15:26                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-02-25  1:49             ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-02-25 10:05               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-25 12:54               ` Tetsuo Handa
2014-02-25 14:46                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-07 12:20                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2014-03-07 15:54                     ` Richard Guy Briggs [this message]
2014-03-08 12:43                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2014-03-10 20:21                         ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-03-11 12:02                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2014-03-11 12:16                             ` Tetsuo Handa
2014-03-11 13:55                               ` James Morris
2014-03-24 15:43                                 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-03-27 17:20                                 ` [PATCH] LSM: Pass comm name via get_task_comm() [was: Re: [PATCH] Change task_struct->comm to use RCU.] Richard Guy Briggs
2014-03-27 18:06                                   ` Stephen Smalley
2014-09-19  3:30                                     ` Richard Guy Briggs

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