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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Joseph Salisbury <joseph.salisbury@canonical.com>
Cc: penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	rientjes@google.com,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	tj@kernel.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kernel Team <kernel-team@lists.ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: [v3.13][v3.14][Regression] kthread: make kthread_create() killable
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 13:02:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140317130241.7e4fde86d75d417628da6f1a@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53236AA2.7030105@canonical.com>

On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 16:46:26 -0400 Joseph Salisbury <joseph.salisbury@canonical.com> wrote:

> Hi Tetsuo,
> 
> A kernel bug report was opened against Ubuntu[0].  We performed a kernel
> bisect, and found that reverting the following commit resolved this bug:
> 
> 
> commit 786235eeba0e1e85e5cbbb9f97d1087ad03dfa21
> Author: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
> Date:   Tue Nov 12 15:06:45 2013 -0800
> 
>     kthread: make kthread_create() killable
> 
> The regression was introduced as of v3.13-rc1.
> 
> The bug indicates an issue with the SAS controller during
> initialization, which prevents the system from booting.  Additional
> details are available in the bug report or on request.
> 
> I was hoping to get your feedback, since you are the patch author.  Do
> you think gathering any additional data will help diagnose this issue,
> or would it be best to submit a revert request?
> 
> [0] http://pad.lv/1276705

What process is running here?  Presumably modprobe.

A possible explanation is that modprobe has genuinely received a
SIGKILL.  Can you identify anything in this setup which might send a
SIGKILL to the modprobe process?

kthread_create_on_node() thinks that SIGKILL came from the oom-killer
and it cheerfully returns -ENOMEM, which is incorrect if that signal
came from userspace.  And I don't _think_ we prevent
userspace-originated signals from unblocking
wait_for_completion_killable()?


Root cause time: it's wrong for the oom-killer to use SIGKILL.  In fact
it's basically always wrong to send signals from in-kernel.  Signals
are a userspace IPC mechanism and using them in-kernel a) makes it hard
(or impossible) to distinguish them from userspace-originated signals
and b) permits userspace to produce surprising results in the kernel,
which I suspect is what we're seeing here.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-03-17 20:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-14 20:46 Joseph Salisbury
2014-03-15  0:43 ` Tetsuo Handa
2014-03-16 15:13   ` Tetsuo Handa
2014-03-16 16:25     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-03-17 12:38       ` [v3.13][v3.14][Regression] kthread: make kthread_create()killable Tetsuo Handa
2014-03-17 14:22         ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-03-18 12:03           ` [v3.13][v3.14][Regression] kthread: makekthread_create()killable Tetsuo Handa
2014-03-18 17:16             ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-03-19 11:49               ` [v3.13][v3.14][Regression] kthread:makekthread_create()killable Tetsuo Handa
2014-03-19 16:13                 ` Joseph Salisbury
2014-03-19 17:52                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-03-19 18:29                     ` please fix FUSION (Was: [v3.13][v3.14][Regression] kthread:makekthread_create()killable) Oleg Nesterov
2014-03-19 19:42                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-03-19 21:04                         ` Joseph Salisbury
2014-03-20 16:46                         ` Joseph Salisbury
2014-03-20 19:23                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-03-21 18:34                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-03-21 19:32                               ` Linus Torvalds
2014-03-21 20:31                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-03-21 22:56                                 ` James Bottomley
2014-03-22  6:25                               ` please fix FUSION (Was: [v3.13][v3.14][Regression]kthread:makekthread_create()killable) Tetsuo Handa
2014-03-22 19:25                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-03-22 20:48                                   ` James Bottomley
2014-03-24 17:01                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-03-22 21:25                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-03-22 22:01                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-03-22 23:57                                       ` please fix FUSION (Was:[v3.13][v3.14][Regression]kthread:makekthread_create()killable) Tetsuo Handa
2014-03-23  8:04                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-03-23 14:19                                           ` James Bottomley
2014-03-23 14:28                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-03-23 14:29                                               ` James Bottomley
2014-03-22 23:50                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2014-03-17 20:02 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2014-03-17 20:19   ` [v3.13][v3.14][Regression] kthread: make kthread_create() killable Oleg Nesterov
2014-03-17 20:39     ` Andrew Morton
2014-03-18 17:45       ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-06-03 13:03     ` [PATCH] kthread: Fix return value of kthread_create() upon SIGKILL Tetsuo Handa
2014-06-03 21:35       ` David Rientjes
2014-03-17 21:32   ` [v3.13][v3.14][Regression] kthread: make kthread_create()killable Tetsuo Handa
2014-03-17 23:18   ` [v3.13][v3.14][Regression] kthread: make kthread_create() killable One Thousand Gnomes
2014-03-18 17:50     ` Oleg Nesterov

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