From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754533AbaCSTrn (ORCPT ); Wed, 19 Mar 2014 15:47:43 -0400 Received: from merlin.infradead.org ([205.233.59.134]:44259 "EHLO merlin.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754419AbaCSTrl (ORCPT ); Wed, 19 Mar 2014 15:47:41 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 20:47:29 +0100 From: Peter Zijlstra To: Steven Rostedt Cc: LKML , linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, Steve French , Clark Williams , "Luis Claudio R. Goncalves" , Thomas Gleixner , Tejun Heo , uobergfe@redhat.com Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] cifs: Fix possible deadlock with cifs and work queues Message-ID: <20140319194729.GB11257@laptop.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <20140319151252.16ed3ac6@gandalf.local.home> <20140319193407.GA11257@laptop.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20140319154339.44c327e3@gandalf.local.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140319154339.44c327e3@gandalf.local.home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2012-12-30) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 03:43:39PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: > On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 20:34:07 +0100 > Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 03:12:52PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > > My question to Tejun is, if we create another workqueue, to add the > > > rdata->work to, would that prevent the above problem? Or what other > > > fixes can we do? > > > > The way I understand workqueues is that we cannot guarantee concurrency > > like this. It tries, but there's no guarantee. > > > > WQ_MAX_ACTIVE seems to be a hard upper limit of concurrent workers. So > > given 511 other blocked works, the described problem will always happen. > > > > Creating another workqueue doesn't actually create more threads. > > But I noticed this: > > Before patch: > > # ps aux |grep cifs > root 3119 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:17 0:00 [cifsiod] > > After patch: > > # ps aux |grep cifs > root 1109 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 15:11 0:00 [cifsiod] > root 1111 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 15:11 0:00 [cifsiord] > > It looks to me that it does create new threads. Ah, I think that's because of the MEM_RECLAIM, not sure if that will normally participate in running works. Its been a long time since I looked at any of that. Lets wait for TJ to wake up.