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From: Grant Likely <grant.likely@linaro.org>
To: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>,
	Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>
Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <m.chehab@samsung.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Sylwester Nawrocki <s.nawrocki@samsung.com>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Kyungmin Park <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>,
	Philipp Zabel <philipp.zabel@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/3] [media] of: move graph helpers from drivers/media/v4l2-core to drivers/of
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 22:26:31 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140320222631.2F0BBC412EA@trevor.secretlab.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <531D5D0E.8000605@ti.com>

On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 08:34:54 +0200, Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com> wrote:
> On 08/03/14 14:23, Grant Likely wrote:
> 
> >>> That's fine. In that case the driver would specifically require the
> >>> endpoint to be that one node.... although the above looks a little weird
> >>
> >> The driver can't require that. It's up to the board designer to decide
> >> how many endpoints are used. A driver may say that it has a single input
> >> port. But the number of endpoints for that port is up to the use case.
> > 
> > Come now, when you're writing a driver you know if it will ever be
> > possible to have more than one port. If that is the case then the
> > binding should be specifically laid out for that. If there will never be
> > multiple ports and the binding is unambiguous, then, and only then,
> > should the shortcut be used, and only the shortcut should be accepted.
> 
> I was talking about endpoints, not ports. There's no unclarity about the
> number of ports, that comes directly from the hardware for that specific
> component. The number of endpoints, however, come from the board
> hardware. The driver writer cannot know that.

Okay, I understand now.

g.

> > Just to be clear, I have no problem with having the option in the
> > pattern, but the driver needs to be specific about what layout it
> > expects.
> 
> If we forget the shortened endpoint format, I think it can be quite
> specific.
> 
> A device has either one port, in which case it should require the
> 'ports' node to be omitted, or the device has more than one port, in
> which case it should require 'ports' node.
> 
> Note that the original v4l2 binding doc says that 'ports' is always
> optional.

The original v4l2 behaviour doesn't need to change. In fact it should
not change if it will cause real-world breakage.

g.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-20 22:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-25 14:58 [PATCH v4 0/3] Move device tree graph parsing helpers " Philipp Zabel
     [not found] ` < 20140226113729.A9D5AC40A89@trevor.secretlab.ca>
     [not found] ` < 1393340304-19005-4-git-send-email-p.zabel@pengutronix.de>
     [not found] ` < 1393340304-19005-2-git-send-email-p.zabel@pengutronix.de>
     [not found]   ` <20140226113729. A9D5AC40A89@trevor.secretlab.ca>
     [not found] ` < 1393428297.3248.92.camel@paszta.hi.pengutronix.de>
     [not found]   ` <20140307171804. EF245C40A32@trevor.secretlab.ca>
2014-02-25 14:58 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] [media] of: move graph helpers from drivers/media/v4l2-core " Philipp Zabel
2014-02-26 11:37   ` Grant Likely
2014-02-26 15:24     ` Philipp Zabel
2014-03-07 17:18       ` Grant Likely
2014-03-08 10:46         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-08 12:23           ` Grant Likely
2014-03-08 15:50             ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-20 22:23               ` Grant Likely
2014-03-20 22:32                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-21 13:37                   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-21 14:10                     ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2014-03-21 14:13                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-21 14:22                       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-21 14:30                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-10  6:34             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-20 22:26               ` Grant Likely [this message]
2014-03-08 12:07         ` Philipp Zabel
2014-03-08 15:54           ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-10  6:00             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-10 13:57               ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-10  8:58             ` Andrzej Hajda
2014-03-10  9:29               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-10 11:42               ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-11 13:55                 ` Andrzej Hajda
2014-03-20 22:33           ` Grant Likely
2014-02-25 14:58 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] [media] of: move common endpoint parsing " Philipp Zabel
2014-02-25 14:58 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] Documentation: of: Document graph bindings Philipp Zabel
2014-02-26 13:14   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-26 14:57     ` Philipp Zabel
2014-02-26 14:50       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-26 15:47         ` Philipp Zabel
2014-02-27  8:08           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-27 10:52             ` Philipp Zabel
2014-02-27 10:41               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-07 18:11         ` Grant Likely
2014-03-08  9:35           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-08 12:25             ` Grant Likely
2014-03-08 15:43               ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-10  6:53               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-11 13:47                 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2014-03-07 17:20     ` Grant Likely

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