From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>
Cc: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>,
aswin@hp.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ipc,shm: increase default size for shmmax
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 16:13:08 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140331161308.6510381345cb9a1b419d5ec0@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1396306773.18499.22.camel@buesod1.americas.hpqcorp.net>
On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 15:59:33 -0700 Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com> wrote:
> >
> > - Shouldn't there be a way to alter this namespace's shm_ctlmax?
>
> Unfortunately this would also add the complexity I previously mentioned.
But if the current namespace's shm_ctlmax is too small, you're screwed.
Have to shut down the namespace all the way back to init_ns and start
again.
> > - What happens if we just nuke the limit altogether and fall back to
> > the next check, which presumably is the rlimit bounds?
>
> afaik we only have rlimit for msgqueues. But in any case, while I like
> that simplicity, it's too late. Too many workloads (specially DBs) rely
> heavily on shmmax. Removing it and relying on something else would thus
> cause a lot of things to break.
It would permit larger shm segments - how could that break things? It
would make most or all of these issues go away?
First principles: why does this thing exist? What problem was SHMMAX
created to solve? It doesn't appear to be part of posix:
http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/000095399/functions/shmget.html
[ENOMEM]
A shared memory identifier and associated shared memory segment
shall be created, but the amount of available physical memory is
not sufficient to fill the request.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-03-31 23:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-03-31 3:06 Davidlohr Bueso
2014-03-31 21:32 ` Andrew Morton
2014-03-31 22:59 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-03-31 23:13 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2014-03-31 23:25 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01 0:05 ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-01 6:29 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2014-04-01 19:19 ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-01 20:15 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-01 20:26 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-02 0:11 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2014-04-02 1:02 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2014-04-02 14:55 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-04-02 23:47 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2014-04-01 17:01 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01 18:10 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-01 18:31 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01 19:51 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-01 21:01 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01 21:12 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-01 21:29 ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-01 21:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-01 21:48 ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-01 22:02 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01 22:08 ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-13 18:05 ` Manfred Spraul
2014-04-13 23:15 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-16 22:46 ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-16 23:19 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-17 10:41 ` Michael Kerrisk
2014-04-17 16:41 ` Manfred Spraul
2014-04-17 20:19 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-01 22:49 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-01 23:28 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01 23:56 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-02 0:40 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-02 1:08 ` Greg Thelen
2014-04-02 1:58 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2014-04-02 2:11 ` Greg Thelen
2014-04-03 0:20 ` [PATCH] ipc,shm: disable shmmax and shmall by default Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-03 14:07 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2014-04-03 19:02 ` Manfred Spraul
2014-04-03 19:50 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-03 23:39 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-04 5:00 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-05 18:24 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-06 6:42 ` Manfred Spraul
2014-04-06 16:54 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-03 22:29 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-03 23:47 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-11 18:28 ` Manfred Spraul
2014-04-11 20:27 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-11 20:48 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-12 8:50 ` Manfred Spraul
2014-04-12 15:33 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01 21:43 ` [PATCH] ipc,shm: increase default size for shmmax Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01 19:26 ` Andrew Morton
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