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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Jovi Zhangwei <jovi.zhangwei@gmail.com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@plumgrid.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: ktap and ebpf integration
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2014 19:50:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140405175059.GT22728@two.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGdX0WEbUszQv=xVK35aes=Qcw=D-0HztML0jBJsKy6hVCH8cA@mail.gmail.com>

> 4) var i = 0; trace *:* { i += 1}
> Assign global variable in here, there also can assign other
> value not 0, please show me how BPF do this.
> (See complex global usage example in samples/schedule/schedtimes.kp)

That's what I meant. BPF is essentially a statically typed
language. KTAP is dynamically typed. It's a very different
model.

Yes they are both Turing complete and likely could 
be somehow translated into each other, but would
it be efficient and simple? No.

[essentially it's the "UNCOL problem" -- see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNCOL
One size doesn't fit all in immediate languages]

-Andi


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-04-05 17:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-04  1:21 Jovi Zhangwei
2014-04-04  6:26 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2014-04-04  7:26   ` Jovi Zhangwei
2014-04-04  7:48     ` Ingo Molnar
2014-04-04  8:46       ` Jovi Zhangwei
2014-04-04 15:57         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2014-04-04 17:28         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2014-04-05 14:23           ` Jovi Zhangwei
2014-04-05 17:22             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2014-04-05 21:26               ` Jovi Zhangwei
2014-04-05 17:50             ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2014-04-04 14:20     ` Andi Kleen
2014-04-04  7:27   ` Ingo Molnar

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