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From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	samba-technical@lists.samba.org,
	Ganesha NFS List <nfs-ganesha-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	"Carlos O'Donell" <carlos@redhat.com>,
	libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	"Stefan (metze) Metzmacher" <metze@samba.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] locks: rename file-private locks to file-description locks
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 12:42:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140421124210.6c5d4e06@tlielax.poochiereds.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140421160927.GA19653@infradead.org>

On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 09:09:27 -0700
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 04:23:54PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> > 
> > There's at least two problems to solve here:
> > 
> > 1) "File private locks" is _meaningless_ as a term. Elsewhere
> >    (http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.network.samba.internals/76414/focus=1685376),
> 
> It's indeed not a very good choice, but the new name is even worse.
> Just call them non-broken locks? :)  Or not give them a name an just
> append a 2 to the fcntls? :)
> 

I think we'll need to give them a name, if only to make it possible to
document this stuff.

I'm in Jeremy's camp on this one. I don't really care what that name
*is*. I just need to know what it is so I can finish up the docs and
make any changes to the interface that are necessary.

> > 2) The new API constants (F_SETLKP, F_SETLKPW, F_GETLKP) have names
> >    that are visually very close to the traditional POSIX lock names 
> >    (F_SETLK, F_SETLKW, F_GETLK). That's an accident waiting to happen
> >    when someone mistypes in code and/or misses such a misttyping
> >    when reading code. That really must be fixed.
> 
> I don't think so.  They also should have a name very similar because
> they have the same semantics with a major bug fixed.  In fact I can't
> think of anyone who would actually want the old behavior.
> 

On this point, I agree with Michael. It would be easy to mix up the
names when scanning by eye, so I think there is some value in making
these more visually distinct. I rather like the idea of changing
F_SETLKP to F_*_SETLK. The question is what to put in place of the
wildcard there, and that sort of hinges on the name...

-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>

  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-21 16:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-21 13:45 Jeff Layton
2014-04-21 14:02 ` Rich Felker
2014-04-21 14:23   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-21 16:09     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-04-21 16:42       ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2014-04-21 17:03       ` [Nfs-ganesha-devel] " Frank Filz
2014-04-21 18:20       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-21 16:10     ` Rich Felker
2014-04-21 16:45       ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-21 18:01         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-21 18:43           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-21 18:18         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-21 18:32           ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-21 18:48             ` Rich Felker
2014-04-21 19:16               ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-21 20:22                 ` Rich Felker
2014-04-21 18:32       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-21 18:34         ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-04-21 18:39           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-21 18:46         ` Rich Felker
2014-04-21 19:39           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-21 19:55             ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-21 21:15               ` Stefan (metze) Metzmacher
2014-04-22  4:54                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-27  4:51                   ` NeilBrown
2014-04-27  9:14                     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-27  9:16                     ` flock() and NFS [Was: Re: [PATCH] locks: rename file-private locks to file-description locks] Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-27 10:04                       ` NeilBrown
2014-04-27 11:11                         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-27 21:28                           ` NeilBrown
2014-04-29  9:07                             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-29  9:24                               ` NeilBrown
2014-04-29  9:53                                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-29 11:34                                   ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-29 12:20                                     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-28 10:23                     ` [PATCH] locks: rename file-private locks to file-description locks Jeff Layton
2014-04-28 10:46                       ` NeilBrown
2014-04-21 18:48         ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-21 18:51           ` Rich Felker
2014-04-21 19:04             ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-21 19:06               ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-04-21 20:10                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-21 20:20               ` Rich Felker
2014-04-21 14:25 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-21 16:05 ` Stefan (metze) Metzmacher

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