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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Li Zhong <zhong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com,
	toshi.kani@hp.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v5 2/2] Use kernfs_break_active_protection() for device online store callbacks
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 16:44:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140422204455.GB3615@mtj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1398137679.2805.28.camel@ThinkPad-T5421.cn.ibm.com>

Hello,

On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:34:39AM +0800, Li Zhong wrote:
> > Is this assumption true?  If so, can we add lockdep assertions in
> > places to verify and enforce this?  If not, aren't we just feeling
> > good when the reality is broken?
> 
> It seems not true ... I think there are devices that don't have the
> online/offline concept, we just need to add it, remove it, like ethernet
> cards. 
> 
> Maybe we could change the comments above, like:
> 	/* We assume device_hotplug_lock must be acquired before 
> 	 * removing devices, which have online/offline sysfs knob, 
> 	 * and some locks are needed to serialize the online/offline
> 	 * callbacks and device removing. ...
> ? 
> 
> And we could add lockdep assertions in cpu and memory related code? e.g.
> remove_memory(), unregister_cpu()
> 
> Currently, remove_memory() has comments for the function:
> 
>  * NOTE: The caller must call lock_device_hotplug() to serialize hotplug
>  * and online/offline operations before this call, as required by
>  * try_offline_node().
>  */
>     
> maybe it could be removed with the lockdep assertion.

I'm confused about the overall locking scheme.  What's the role of
device_hotplug_lock?  Is that solely to prevent the sysfs deadlock
issue?  Or does it serve other synchronization purposes depending on
the specific subsystem?  If the former, the lock no longer needs to
exist.  The only thing necessary would be synchronization between
device_del() deleting the sysfs file and the unbreak helper invoking
device-specific callback.  If the latter, we probably should change
that.  Sharing hotplug lock across multiple subsystems through driver
core sounds like a pretty bad idea.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-04-22 20:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-10  9:18 [RFC PATCH] Suppress a device hot remove related lockdep warning Li Zhong
2014-04-10 13:31 ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-11  4:10   ` [RFC PATCH v2] Use kernfs_break_active_protection() for device online store callbacks Li Zhong
2014-04-11 10:26     ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-14  7:47       ` [RFC PATCH v3] " Li Zhong
2014-04-14 20:13         ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-15  2:44           ` Li Zhong
2014-04-15 14:50             ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-16  1:41               ` Li Zhong
2014-04-16 15:17                 ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-17  3:05                   ` Li Zhong
2014-04-17 15:06                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-17  6:50                   ` [RFC PATCH v4] " Li Zhong
2014-04-17 15:17                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-18  8:33                       ` Li Zhong
2014-04-21  9:20                       ` [RFC PATCH v5 1/2] Use lock_device_hotplug() in cpu_probe_store() and cpu_release_store() Li Zhong
2014-04-21  9:23                         ` [RFC PATCH v5 2/2] Use kernfs_break_active_protection() for device online store callbacks Li Zhong
2014-04-21 22:46                           ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-22  3:34                             ` Li Zhong
2014-04-22 10:11                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-04-23  1:50                                 ` Li Zhong
2014-04-23 10:54                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-04-24  1:13                                     ` Li Zhong
2014-04-22 20:44                               ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2014-04-22 22:21                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-04-23 14:23                                   ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-23 16:12                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-04-23 16:52                                       ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-24  8:59                                       ` Li Zhong
2014-04-24 10:02                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-04-25  1:46                                           ` Li Zhong
2014-04-25 12:47                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-04-28  1:49                                               ` Li Zhong
2014-04-23  5:03                                 ` Li Zhong
2014-04-23 10:58                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-04-24  1:33                                     ` Li Zhong
2014-05-09  8:35                               ` Li Zhong
2014-05-09  8:40                                 ` [RFC PATCH v6 1/2 ] Use lock_device_hotplug() in cpu_probe_store() and cpu_release_store() Li Zhong
2014-05-09  8:40                                   ` [RFC PATCH v6 2/2] Implement lock_device_hotplug_sysfs() by breaking active protection Li Zhong
2014-04-21 22:38                         ` [RFC PATCH v5 1/2] Use lock_device_hotplug() in cpu_probe_store() and cpu_release_store() Tejun Heo
2014-04-22  2:29                           ` Li Zhong
2014-04-22 20:40                             ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-23  2:00                               ` Li Zhong
2014-04-23 14:39                                 ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-24  8:37                                   ` Li Zhong
2014-04-24 14:32                                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-25  1:56                                       ` Li Zhong
2014-04-25 12:28                                         ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-28  0:51                                           ` Li Zhong

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