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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>
Cc: Jason Low <jason.low2@hp.com>,
	"mingo@kernel.org" <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"daniel.lezcano@linaro.org" <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	"alex.shi@linaro.org" <alex.shi@linaro.org>,
	"preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"efault@gmx.de" <efault@gmx.de>,
	"vincent.guittot@linaro.org" <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	"aswin@hp.com" <aswin@hp.com>,
	"chegu_vinod@hp.com" <chegu_vinod@hp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] sched, fair: Stop searching for tasks in newidle balance if there are runnable tasks
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 16:59:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140424145925.GA27561@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140424140802.GM2500@e103034-lin>

On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 03:08:02PM +0100, Morten Rasmussen wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 12:32:31PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 11:30:59AM +0100, Morten Rasmussen wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 02:30:35AM +0100, Jason Low wrote:
> > > > @@ -6704,7 +6703,12 @@ static int idle_balance(struct rq *this_rq)
> > > >  		interval = msecs_to_jiffies(sd->balance_interval);
> > > >  		if (time_after(next_balance, sd->last_balance + interval))
> > > >  			next_balance = sd->last_balance + interval;
> > > > -		if (pulled_task)
> > > > +
> > > > +		/*
> > > > +		 * Stop searching for tasks to pull if there are
> > > > +		 * now runnable tasks on this rq.
> > > > +		 */
> > > > +		if (pulled_task || this_rq->nr_running > 0)
> > > 
> > > Should this be cfs tasks instead?
> > > 
> > > +		if (pulled_task || this_rq->cfs.h_nr_running > 0)
> > > 
> > > 3.15-rc2 commit 35805ff8f4fc535ac85330170d3c56829c87c677 seems to
> > > indicate that using rq->nr_running may lead to trouble.
> > > 
> > > The other two patches look good to me.
> > 
> > No, this really wants to be nr_running, we want to bail the idle
> > balancer when there's anything runnable present.
> > 
> > Note how out: is very careful to return -1 (which results in RETRY_TASK)
> > when rq->nr_running != rq->cfs.h_nr_running.
> > 
> > That same out: test also makes problem that commit fixes impossible
> > again.
> 
> I should have done my homework properly. I may be missing something, but
> don't we risk bailing out of idle balance if there is a throttled rt
> task and go straight to idle?

Good point, depends, in tip/sched/core Kirill fixed that. For -linus
this is indeed a problem.

See patches:

46383648b3c7 sched: Revert commit 4c6c4e38c4e9 ("sched/core: Fix endless loop in pick_next_task()")
f4ebcbc0d7e0 sched/rt: Substract number of tasks of throttled queues from rq->nr_running
653d07a6989a sched/rt: Add accessors rq_of_rt_se()
22abdef37ceb sched/rt: Sum number of all children tasks in hierarhy at ->rt_nr_running

So for sched/core everything should be fine. This does mean I have to
queue this patch for /core and not /urgent (/me quickly moves).

  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-24 14:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-24  1:30 [PATCH 0/3] sched: Idle balance patches Jason Low
2014-04-24  1:30 ` [PATCH 1/3] sched, balancing: Update rq->max_idle_balance_cost whenever newidle balance is attempted Jason Low
2014-04-24 10:14   ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-04-24 12:04     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-24 12:44       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-24 16:53         ` Jason Low
2014-04-24 17:14           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-24 17:29             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-24 22:18             ` Jason Low
2014-04-25  5:12               ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-04-25  7:13                 ` Jason Low
2014-04-25  7:58                   ` Mike Galbraith
2014-04-25 17:03                     ` Jason Low
2014-04-25  5:08             ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-04-25  9:43               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-25 19:54                 ` Jason Low
2014-04-26 14:50                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-28 16:42                     ` Jason Low
2014-04-27  8:31                   ` Preeti Murthy
2014-04-28  9:24                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-29  3:10                       ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-04-28 18:04                     ` Jason Low
2014-04-29  3:52                       ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-04-24  1:30 ` [PATCH 2/3] sched: Initialize newidle balance stats in sd_numa_init() Jason Low
2014-04-24 12:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-25  5:57   ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-05-08 10:42   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/numa: " tip-bot for Jason Low
2014-04-24  1:30 ` [PATCH 3/3] sched, fair: Stop searching for tasks in newidle balance if there are runnable tasks Jason Low
2014-04-24  2:51   ` Mike Galbraith
2014-04-24  8:28     ` Mike Galbraith
2014-04-24 16:37     ` Jason Low
2014-04-24 19:07       ` Mike Galbraith
2014-04-24  7:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-24 16:43     ` Jason Low
2014-04-24 16:52       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-25  1:24         ` Jason Low
2014-04-25  2:45         ` Mike Galbraith
2014-04-25  3:33           ` Jason Low
2014-04-25  5:46             ` Mike Galbraith
2014-04-24 16:54       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-24 10:30   ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-04-24 11:32     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-24 14:08       ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-04-24 14:59         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2014-05-08 10:44   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: " tip-bot for Jason Low

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